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blotafton
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 Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:58 pm Post subject: Tokina SZ-X 357 35-70mm 3.5-4.8 test |
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blotafton wrote:
Maybe the smallest 35-70mm lens? I got it with its original box in M42 mount and took some shots on a walk.
It seems to be a bit decentered but otherwise displays reasonable image quality.
1:5 macro isn't great though. But with a macro adapter it can get closer, test shot included.
It will not replace my MD Zoom 35-70mm 3.5 macro.
Images taken with a Sony A7.
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:20 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
How small is it compared to your MD Zoom?
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:16 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Without being able to pixel peep, the images look pretty good. Being very compact (but slow) I can see it’s value as a hiking lens for sunny days. |
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blotafton
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
| How small is it compared to your MD Zoom? |
With caps the the length is about 8cm for the Tokina and 9cm for the Minolta.
I've seen one from Sigma that might be the smallest. |
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blotafton
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
| caspert79 wrote: |
| Without being able to pixel peep, the images look pretty good. Being very compact (but slow) I can see it’s value as a hiking lens for sunny days. |
Here is some 100% peeping at 70mm I think.
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:13 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
It OK but it seems to be not in the same ballpark as the Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 macro, right? |
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Phalbert
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Phalbert wrote:
Talking about size, how about this little guy. It has a good reputation. Not as good or fast as the Minolta, but much cheaper. And maybe even smaller than the Tokina.
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
Talking about size, how about this little guy. It has a good reputation. Not as good or fast as the Minolta, but much cheaper. And maybe even smaller than the Tokina.
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I remember playing with it, albeit quite long ago. I remember its optical performance was not too impressive. Definitely not close to the Minolta. |
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D1N0
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D1N0 wrote:
I like my  SMC Pentax-A zoom 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr
There is also an f4 version with constant aperture, also very good
The Tamron adaptall-2 09a (3.5-4.5) and 17a (3.5 constant) are also nice and a bit more bulky.
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blotafton
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:27 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
Talking about size, how about this little guy. It has a good reputation. Not as good or fast as the Minolta, but much cheaper. And maybe even smaller than the Tokina.
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| Phalbert wrote: |
Talking about size, how about this little guy. It has a good reputation. Not as good or fast as the Minolta, but much cheaper. And maybe even smaller than the Tokina.
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I've been looking for one to use on my OM-10. On film it looks great but it's not necessarily the same performance on digital.
Looks pretty good! |
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
Good looking lens, never tried it. |
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