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Hari wrote:
Now that i'm out taking pictures and not buying/selling lenses, i'm bored 
Buying and Selling is a very informative and of course, a very social activity
So, I have a new addiction [temporary, but of course]
M39 lenses with the Red N [P in Cyrillic]
So far, I came up with:
1. Jupiter 9 85mm f2
2. Helios 40 85mm f1.5
3. Jupiter 3 50mm f1.5
4. Jupiter 8 50mm f2
5. Jupiter 11 135mm f4
6. Industar 26M 50mm f2.8
7. Industar 50 50mm f3.5
8. Industar 22 50mm f3.5
If you know of any others, do add them to the list!
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themoleman342
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Himself
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: The Red Army |
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Himself wrote:
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M39 lenses with the Red N [P in Cyrillic]
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That is I in Cyrillic and it's like that И.
P is П.
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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That is I in Cyrillic and it's like that И.
P is П. |
Correct. The И is pronounced like the I in Machine |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I've no idea how to type П and I guess Hari had the same issue. Plus, it looks a bit like an N.
What's the character acually called?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
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Plus, it looks a bit like an N.
What's the character acually called? |
Actually, it's an inversed N.
The is no particular name for the letter itself.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The issue is confused here; I was talking about the П not the И. Although both look like N.
Just noticed that my J12 has the red symbol too. Yay!
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Hari
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
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The issue is confused here; I was talking about the П not the И. Although both look like N.
Just noticed that my J12 has the red symbol too. Yay! |
Yep. Martin's my man. I was talking abt the П
I don't recollect seeing an И on any russian lens till date - do they exist?
Of course, I forgot to mention the good ol M39 Helios 44
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Attila wrote:
I also did start to collect Red Army,
currently I have Industar-26, Jupiter-8, Jupiter-9, and Jupiter-12 (this is latest purchase not in my hands yet) I have two FED-2 to use them.
They are stunning lenses in my opinion , I love them pretty much.
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torbod
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torbod wrote:
If not already answered, upper case П is pronounced p in Cyrillic, the same symbol and letter as the Greek Pi (as in 3.14 you know... but then usually the lower case symbol, which I cannot type on my MAC for some reason).
Well, nice hobby you have got, one could just imagine how long it would take before the LBA would settle in again...
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hey, guys. This is getting very peculiar.
We are beyond just collecting lenses (where most people have already lost us). We now are collecting special versions of lenses. 
I guess any "neutral" person who reads this would go like: "What the heck are they talking about?"
But that's one of the reasons why I love this place so much! 
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patrickh wrote:
Damn - something else to look into. 
patrickh
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Damn - something else to look into.
patrickh |
Yes, they are fantastic and very affordable.
Samples taken with them.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/jupiter/jupiter_9_8_5cm_contax/?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/russian/fed-2-jupiter-8/?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/russian/fed-2-jupiter-9/?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/Helios/helios_40_8_5cm_f1_5/?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/russian/fed-2-industar-26-heliar-15/?
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Hey, guys. This is getting very peculiar.
We are beyond just collecting lenses (where most people have already lost us). We now are collecting special versions of lenses.
I guess any "neutral" person who reads this would go like: "What the heck are they talking about?"
But that's one of the reasons why I love this place so much! |
Yes, hunting is great especially if quite affordable price met with excellent quality.
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kds315* wrote:
OK, here's the challenge to stop talking about these boring lenses everyone has.
Highest resolution lens the Russians were able to make....very impressive >450lpm (line pairs per mm).
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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OK, here's the challenge to stop talking about these boring lenses everyone has.
Highest resolution lens the Russians were able to make....very impressive >450lpm (line pairs per mm). |
Made for what ? Microfilm, Space mission ?
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kds315* wrote:
Most likely used to make early russian computer chips (i.e micro reproduction)
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
Its a reproduction lens, so a M76 mount.
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
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I don't recollect seeing an И on any russian lens till date - do they exist? |
You'll usually find it embedded in lens names like Индустар-50 
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
A red "N" for sale here : Click here to see on Ebay.
Another one : Click here to see on Ebay
another : Click here to see on Ebay
There are some other ones on this site.
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Jupiter-12 Red is coming wish me luck to get a good one I will pick it up tomorrow.
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LittleAlex wrote:
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Yep. Martin's my man. I was talking abt the П
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П is the very first letter for the russain word "ПРОСВЕТЛЁННЫЙ" (prosvetlionnij) meanind "COATED" in English.
At that time it had been the greatest hit of the time. Like MC later.
However at the beginnig of 60-th they stoped to mention it, because it started to be too common for all lenses.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
That's a FED.
It has the 3.14 in red with the Industar written in cyrillic.
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Kamerer wrote:
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| Jupiter-12 Red is coming wish me luck to get a good one I will pick it up tomorrow. |
Congratulations, I have such a lens was very good drawing, 1960, Krasnogorsk.
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