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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A treasure trove of manuals including this gem: Soligor Universal Automatic T4 Lens System


PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A treasure trove indeed !

Thank you !


PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently I saw the diagram of the T2 soligor lenses and, noted, looking at the T4 schames, that in the 105 and 135 the lenses were changed. From 5 elements to 4 elements. The difference is in the rear group : 2 elements in the T2 and only one in the T4.

More contrast. Paying with less corners correction?


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this on ebay a month ago, 135 f/2 "CD"


bigger view:

http://g1.img-dpreview.com/F65CB52F279049EFA2D844382483C0CE.jpg

It's turned to winter here fast and have not had a chance to really try it out, but it does seem pretty sharp.

It is one hunk of metal with sweet focus and unusual large easy clicking aperture ring--really nice to to stop on the fly.


bigger:
http://g2.img-dpreview.com/B97A81D31CBB4B70BF6F2D8ACD73C9C3.jpg

Won auction at 151.40 USD

just wondering if anyone knows the story behind this one?

TY sirs


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhoh7 wrote:

just wondering if anyone knows the story behind this one?


Soligor C/D was the attempt from soligor to go high end

The first C/D batch was 28/2 + 35/2 + 135/2 + 200/2.8 + 100mm macro + 80/200 3.5
The second c/d batch included 35/105 3.5 + 100/300 5.0 + 70/220 3.5

It did compete with Vivitar S1 line

Nearly all lenses were Tokina made (including yours)


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Soligor c/d macro 70-210 f3.5 (constant) serial number 38103929 any ideas? Havnt had the chance to try it out yet, although as its SSOOO heavy I think I may end up with a hernia!!!!! LOL


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PBFACTS wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:

just wondering if anyone knows the story behind this one?


Soligor C/D was the attempt from soligor to go high end

The first C/D batch was 28/2 + 35/2 + 135/2 + 200/2.8 + 100mm macro + 80/200 3.5
The second c/d batch included 35/105 3.5 + 100/300 5.0 + 70/220 3.5

It did compete with Vivitar S1 line

Nearly all lenses were Tokina made (including yours)


TY PBFACTS

It has all white lettering at the front around the glass, except a small yellow "P".

Serial 17401531

Any way to get an idea when it was made?

How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?

Here it is handheld iso 200 1/320 at f/2 DOF quite tight (very overcast flat light) no PP Sony APS-C


Sharpness--same settings no PP


bigger:
http://g4.img-dpreview.com/CC87218A0BAD4ED3A93C3EF3AEFE331A.jpg
100%



action:

bigger
http://g1.img-dpreview.com/72CF623931D2467F805C9404F43E923C.jpg

I'm thinking of trying some brenizer shots with it.

some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread

ty sirs


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhoh7 wrote:

Any way to get an idea when it was made?
How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?
some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread


1- circa 1975
2- Good lens (not fantastic) but low constrat at full ap (some are much better) .. i will say that yours is over usual quality for that lens ) good number !
3- 1.8 lens is completely different


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PBFACTS wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:

Any way to get an idea when it was made?
How does it rate compared to the other fast 135s?
some copies marked f/1.8 according to one thread


1- circa 1975
2- Good lens (not fantastic) but low constrat at full ap (some are much better) .. i will say that yours is over usual quality for that lens ) good number !
3- 1.8 lens is completely different


REALLY apreciate the response.

When you say "good number", is that judging by the images or the serial number itself?

I'm thinking you are looking at the crop.

We have snow everywhere now, but I will be interested to see contrast on bright spring day, WO.

all the best,


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Soligor continued using the same serial number format for the CD lenses, then as already pointed out, this is a Tokina lens made in 1974 (hence the 174xxxx serial).


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Soligor 135mm f2.8 'Chrome ears' Reply with quote

I too have this lens, mine is M42, serial # is 278664, with no 'M'.

Lloydy wrote:
Soligor 135mm f2.8 'Chrome ears'

M39 - T2 mount, shown with M42 adaptor.

Serial number - M 163925

The 'M' is a mystery, but the '1' might make it a Tokina made in 1963


PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
If Soligor continued using the same serial number format for the CD lenses, then as already pointed out, this is a Tokina lens made in 1974 (hence the 174xxxx serial).


TY sir.

I have to weigh the monster. I have nothing that approaches it's weight, even my Vivitar series1 105mm f/2.5 macro--it feels 50% heavier.

Carrying it around the house I feel like frodo with the "ring" hehe. It exudes mystic.

MD mount BTW

Here is a shot compared to FD 135mm f/2 (which i suspect might be better)

credit to Michiel Schierbeek

Here is current auction of FD 135 f/2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170570902163&item=170570902163

Found one that sold off a forum, near mint for 245 last spring.

It'll be interesting to see what the current one brings.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Soligor product catalog Reply with quote

A different listing of C/D lenses



From a Soligor product catalogue, enclosed in the box of a Soligor C/D Dualfocal lens 85 & 135mm 4.0. The lens has P/K mount. That lens is not in de listing. No date to be found on the advert.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently came across a Soligor catalog. No date on it but from about 1982 judging by the receipts and other stuff found with it. Illustrated and described:
24-45mm f3.5-4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring.
28-80mm f3.5-4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
35-70mm f2.5-3.5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring
35-140mm f3.5 G/S Zoom + Macro two ring
70-150mm f3.8 C/D "One Touch"
70-222mm f3.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
75-250mm f4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
80-200mm f4.5 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
85-205mm f3.8 C/D Zoom + Macro "One Touch"
85-300mm f5 C/D Zoom + Macro two ring
24mm f2.5 G/S
28mm f2.5 G/S
28mm f2.8 C/D
100mm f2 C/D
135mm f2.5 G/S
135mm f2.8 C/D
200mm f2.8 G/S
300mm f4.5 G/S
400mm f5.6 G/S
500mm f8 C/D mirror telephoto
2X Multi-Purpose 4 element. Remove optics to use as extension tube.
2X 4 element tele-converter
2X C/D7 7 element tele-converter
2X C/D7 Mirror For use with 500mm mirror tele. T2 mount.
3X tele-converter
1.5X tele-converter

I'll try to scan and post.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this :



It's on this french site, which contains a lot of ald cameras' manuals.
http://www.collection-appareils.fr/general/html/liste_notices.php


PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before Shocked



PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've a cd 28-55 macro 1:3 in Nikon mount, thanks to Bill. it is a heavy dude; easy to handhold on my FE2.
some samples:
handheld, 40-45mm:

handheld, 55mm:

handheld, about 40mm:

handheld, 40-45mm:

handheld, 28mm:

handheld, 28mm:


PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before


Cosmetic variation on very common Yashica/Tomioka 500mm mirror. Often seen as Lentar. Found in many other guises, including Spiratone and Hanimex. Early to mid 70s vintage.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have three Soligor lenses
a f2.8/25mm in M42



f3.5/180mm in M42



I like the Tele lens a lot, the wide angel less so but I should test it out again.

The third is a Soligor CD Dualfocal f3.5/28mm + f3.8/35mm with Minolta MD mount, if interested I'll take a photo of it


PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:23 am    Post subject: Soligor 200mm 4.5 Reply with quote

Hey ! I got my first soligar lens not long ago. It has not been listed yet here on the post, so here it is.


For some reason, the picture would show when I preview my post, but not when I submit it? Anyone knows why ?

My serial number is 283681 and it is m42 mount. A very nice preset lens that I enjoy using so far. Could someone tell me who is the manufacturer of this lens ? Anyone else has it ?

Thanks guys!


PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Soligor 200mm 4.5 Reply with quote

kp0c wrote:
Hey ! I got my first soligar lens not long ago. It has not been listed yet here on the post, so here it is.


For some reason, the picture would show when I preview my post, but not when I submit it? Anyone knows why ?

My serial number is 283681 and it is m42 mount. A very nice preset lens that I enjoy using so far. Could someone tell me who is the manufacturer of this lens ? Anyone else has it ?

Thanks guys!


Welcome kp0c. (Image links are disabled for first time posts)


PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you visualopsins , now that I think about it, it makes complete sens.

Maybe I should have introduced myself. I am a Pentax DSLR shooters. Just started last year but already got hooked for old manual primes. I have tried dozen of lens in the past few months, including some gems. I pretty much check local classified every time, 2 to 3 times a day waiting for the old camera gear.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello KP0C.
I think your Soligor was made by Tokina.
Cheers


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome kp0c, I'm sure you'll find this a friendly place.

Try that lens out, if you need an adaptor get one. I have a feeling that old Soligor might surprise you.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casualcollector wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Just seen an old Soligor mirror on the bay, never seen one like this before


Cosmetic variation on very common Yashica/Tomioka 500mm mirror. Often seen as Lentar. Found in many other guises, including Spiratone and Hanimex. Early to mid 70s vintage.


Well, I missed it and the new buyer then listed it straight back up again! So I have it here now Smile It's incredibly huge Shocked A touch shorter than the Pentacon 300/4.

Lens has a 172xxx serial so I presume it is actually an early 1970s Tokina lens! The lens has three filters built in...one normal and two ND filters to stop the lens down, well slow it at least. The lens is marked as f8, f11 and f16 however.

What a beast! Photos to follow...