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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:08 am Post subject: Test 28mm |
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sergun wrote:
Conducted a test of the old 28 manual fixes. My goal is to see the performance of the lens in the far field. Test is performed on a full frame camera Sony A7R
Participants:
fujinon 28mm f3.5 (байонетный)
Minolta MD3 28mm f2.8 (7/7)
tamron adaptall2 28mm f2.5
Konica 28mm f3.5 (7/7)
mitakon 28mm f2.8
The control frame.
f5.6 The left side
f5.6 The lower left corner
f5.6 The lower right corner
f8 The left side
f8 The lower left corner
f8 The lower right corner
The result:
First of all I must say that all of the lenses "soap" on the left side in the far field in varying degrees. (Mitakon was very poor and I did not do the crops)
fujinon 28mm f3.5 (байонетный) - showed slightly better results than others. (I have recently. I will try next.)
Minolta MD3 28mm f2.8 (7/7) - "soap" on the left side. Perhaps it is my copy bad. Very low ХA (based on experience)
tamron adaptall2 28mm f2.5 - The center and the sides are good but corners are the worst. Blue hares.
Konica 28mm f3.5 (7/7) - The results are similar to the Minolta but no such "soap" on the left side. I recently, nothing to add. (Version of 7/7 is considered to be the best Konica but I've seen the opinion of one fan Konica he claims that the latest version of f22 5/5 better.)
mitakon 28mm f2.8 - The worst of presents. The left side is a soap. Large "barrel" and the real focal length 29-30mm.
Below is a link to all the full size bed frames. https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/sergun-p/album/548108 _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Test 28mm |
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fwcetus wrote:
sergun wrote: |
First of all I must say that all of the lenses "soap" on the left side in the far field in varying degrees. |
Please pardon my ignorance - - "soap"? _________________ Fred
If you saw a fellow drowning, and you could either save him or photograph the event . . . What lens would you use ? |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
My ad blocker doesn't like your image hoster. The older 3.5 lenses seem to perform better than the 2.8 ones. Probably they were more focussed on sharpness than brightness wide open. _________________ pentaxian |
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
My ad blocker doesn't like your image hoster. The older 3.5 lenses seem to perform better than the 2.8 ones. Probably they were more focussed on sharpness than brightness wide open. |
I couldn't help but notice that the larger the aperture, the smaller the front element! |
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sergtum
Joined: 14 Nov 2016 Posts: 735
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Test 28mm |
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sergtum wrote:
fwcetus wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
First of all I must say that all of the lenses "soap" on the left side in the far field in varying degrees. |
Please pardon my ignorance - - "soap"? |
From Russia with Love.
In the sense of Russian phraseology "soap in the eye" means: stop seeing and notice the essence, important, details, from the general to allocate the private, not to notice the new and beautiful, in short - to stop reacting to changes and changes. With reference to the photograph "soap" means the absence of details in any part of the picture. |
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Test 28mm |
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fwcetus wrote:
sergtum wrote: |
fwcetus wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
First of all I must say that all of the lenses "soap" on the left side in the far field in varying degrees. |
Please pardon my ignorance - - "soap"? |
From Russia with Love.
In the sense of Russian phraseology "soap in the eye" means: stop seeing and notice the essence, important, details, from the general to allocate the private, not to notice the new and beautiful, in short - to stop reacting to changes and changes. With reference to the photograph "soap" means the absence of details in any part of the picture. |
Ah, OK -- Thanks !!! _________________ Fred
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Test 28mm |
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Gerald wrote:
fwcetus wrote: |
sergtum wrote: |
fwcetus wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
First of all I must say that all of the lenses "soap" on the left side in the far field in varying degrees. |
Please pardon my ignorance - - "soap"? |
From Russia with Love.
In the sense of Russian phraseology "soap in the eye" means: stop seeing and notice the essence, important, details, from the general to allocate the private, not to notice the new and beautiful, in short - to stop reacting to changes and changes. With reference to the photograph "soap" means the absence of details in any part of the picture. |
Ah, OK -- Thanks !!! |
For a moment I thought it had something to do with "bubble bokeh"? _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Gerald.. You have a mind just like mine....Twisted _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
If all lenses had weak left side, you might also consider some other calibration issue (camera, sensor, adapter...). _________________ ---------------------------------
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:10 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
I also began to think that maybe the fault of the adapters or their conjunction but as shown by further tests on other lenses it's impossible. Ran a preliminary test old lenses in the range of 70-150mm including Minolta 75-150 and it showed "soap" in the right part of the image (loss of 15-20% of the area of the field)
p.s Maybe I just want a lot of old lenses. My newest Firin Tokina 20mm f2 is also "soap" on the right side.
The interpreter translates what the garbage ) _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:33 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Add to the dough. Came to my Distagon T* 28mm f2.8 mmj c/y. The best test I have left, Fujinon-w 28mm f3.5.
Control frame (A7R)
Center f8
The right side f8
The lower left corner f8
The left side f8
full size in the folder
Since I only tested the sharpness in the far field the conclusion is obvious. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I too suspect there may be an issue with your setup, with that many lenses being soft on the same side suggest a miss alignment in the mount or sensor. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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sergun
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:24 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
I too suspect there may be an issue with your setup, with that many lenses being soft on the same side suggest a miss alignment in the mount or sensor. |
Yes, at me too such suspicions. On the left side a little more "soap". can't imagine how on five different lenses with different adapters this happens.
p/s Distagon 28mm f2.8 mmj
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