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visualopsins
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:29 pm Post subject: Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200 |
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visualopsins wrote:
A7RII f/8
#1 Mountain 50km away -- see the cell towers?
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3216 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200 |
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Himself wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
A7RII f/8
#1 Mountain 50km away -- see the cell towers?
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I can see the mosquitos cloud around those towers _________________ Moderator Himself |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10543 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200 |
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visualopsins wrote:
Himself wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
A7RII f/8
#1 Mountain 50km away -- see the cell towers?
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I can see the mosquitos cloud around those towers |
How about t all these?
https://pestpush.com/mosquito-predators/
pixels from 43mp sensor
Thanks @kds315* _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
I have one of these lenses as well. Small, light weight, very well built, all metal. And excellent optical quality. What is not to like?
Regards, C |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2927 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
I have one of these lenses as well. Small, light weight, very well built, all metal. And excellent optical quality. What is not to like?
Regards, C |
Nice lens, I recently found mine that I lost after moving 5 years ago 😊
There’s really not too much choice if you want a very compact 200mm. There’s the Zuiko 200/5 but I’m not sure if it is as good. |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
There’s the Zuiko 200/5 but I’m not sure if it is as good. |
I recently picked up a Zuiko 200/5. It's pretty good, I like it. I haven't done any extensive testing so I can't say one is better than the other, but the Olympus is certainly not a bad lens.
Weather permitting I will try to take some test shots one of these days.
Regards, C. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2927 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
There’s the Zuiko 200/5 but I’m not sure if it is as good. |
I recently picked up a Zuiko 200/5. It's pretty good, I like it. I haven't done any extensive testing so I can't say one is better than the other, but the Olympus is certainly not a bad lens.
Weather permitting I will try to take some test shots one of these days.
Regards, C. |
Looking forward to it! |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Looking forward to it! |
This unexciting picture was not taken today (if you are in the Netherlands then that should be obvious) but a months ago. This is the Olympus OM 200mm f/5.0 at f/8. And not a 1:1 comparison with a Takumar 200mm 5.6 (yet). The camera is an Olympus E-M1 MkIII. The concrete frame of an old office building is about 800 meters away if I remember correctly from measuring it on Google Earth. The plan is/was to turn it into appartments but that has been put on hold. So we are left looking at this. Makes for a good test target for lenses.
I had to crop the picture down just a little to get it within the size limit of the forum here. Didn't do anything to it other than shave it down a little and save it at 90% quality (that dropped the files size from 14MB to 5.5MB)
Regards, C. |
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caspert79
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Great subject for a comparison between the two lenses😉
It would actually be very interesting to see these lenses compared, as they are about the only go to lenses when you want something very compact in the 200mm category. |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:17 am Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
Contrary to yesterday, today the weather is very nice for taking some pictures.
Camera: Olympus E-M1 MkIII, ISO 200, Image Stabilization turned OFF. Camera is on a tripod with a 2 second self timer. Auto white balance.
Both pictures have taken a trip through the "OM Workspace" application where I saved the raw file as "fine" in stead of my default "super fine" in order to reduce the file size. Other than that this is SOOC.
The concrete shell of the building in front is roughly 400 meters away from me. The apartment building behind the concrete shell is about 400 meters further away.
Lens: Olympus OM 200mm f/5 at f/8:
Asahi Takumar 200mm f/5.6 at f/8:
To my eyes these lenses are pretty close.
Regards, C. |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
..as they are about the only go to lenses when you want something very compact in the 200mm category. |
Konica Hexanon ARP 200mm 5.6?
I have never seen one, so these might be rare.
Regards, C. |
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D1N0
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The Pentax-m 200mm is actually a bit shorter and lighter than the takumar. Wider though.
There are a lot of cheap short 70-210mm F4-5.6 zoom from the eighties from the likes of Tokina, Tamron and Sigma and several rebrands.
Something like it was covered here: http://forum.mflenses.com/which-would-be-the-best-small-200mm-t70507.html _________________ pentaxian |
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caspert79
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Interesting, didn’t think about the Pentax-M. Slightly shorter FL is the Sigma APO 180/5.6 macro, which I do own (AF version btw) and has great optics. |
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caspert79
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
Contrary to yesterday, today the weather is very nice for taking some pictures.
Camera: Olympus E-M1 MkIII, ISO 200, Image Stabilization turned OFF. Camera is on a tripod with a 2 second self timer. Auto white balance.
Both pictures have taken a trip through the "OM Workspace" application where I saved the raw file as "fine" in stead of my default "super fine" in order to reduce the file size. Other than that this is SOOC.
The concrete shell of the building in front is roughly 400 meters away from me. The apartment building behind the concrete shell is about 400 meters further away.
Lens: Olympus OM 200mm f/5 at f/8:
To my eyes these lenses are pretty close.
Regards, C. |
Differences are minimal indeed although the E-M1 MkIII's sensor doesn't capture the corners you would capture on FF. The Takumar looks a tiny bit cleaner in the sunny parts (in terms of CA), although the difference is small and could be caused by slight focusing differences as well. |
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