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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:47 am    Post subject: Tele lenses with "oil painting" bokeh? Reply with quote

After I read here on the forum, these days they arrived to me, they are takumar 55/2.2 and Chinon 55/1.7 lenses, which are characterized by such a pictural "oil" bokeh. Also lenses with a pictorial bokeh I think it would be Chinon 55/1.4 and Industar 61. I think I have already enough 50mm lenses, among others who do not have painting bokeh and it's time to stop buying such lenses. So I'd like a lens with a focal length in the 100-200mm range, which offer such a pictorial bokeh.
In conclusion, the question is what lenses in the 100-200mm offer a pictorial bokeh? It may also include projector lenses.
I'd like to buy it quickly and then start anti LBA treatment. Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if considered as "Oil painting" bokeh, but the Vivitar 135mm f2.8 close focusing can produce some fun, interesting bokeh (subjectively..)





PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great lens,I recommend.....






PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather not talk about this lens, or at least not to post so pleasant photos Wink For a year and a half I'm looking for such a lens and I have not found for the Pentax K mount. What would be the usual price?


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kryss, please stop posting pictures of your version of this lens!!! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the 135 CF on A7. It is a pretty good lens although the purple fringing is quiet prominent. Wink


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kryss, what version of the lens is that one? Surprised


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trioplan 2,8/100



PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both taken with lens wide open. I love the Pentacon 135, and it's 200 big brother.
Pentacon 135 / 2.8


Minolta Tele Rokkor 135 / 2.8


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edrie...I apologies for the flagrant display,I wonder if I should have put a Nude tag on it.Rarer than the non close focusing version of which I have 3 Komines (1 chrome nose) for some unknown reason. My version is customized which includes a CLA and lots of bling.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed, I apologize for getting you excited with such debauchery,my bad. Welcome Turtle


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RubberFlubber...Customized,I can give you details.Many lenses qualify and can include colour anodizing of aperture/focusing ring.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't discount zoom lenses, this old Tamron BBAR 85-210 / 3.5 is sharp and produces great bokeh.



PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angenieux 70-210/3.5 wide open at f3.5.



PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW...I love the Daffy David,I have this lens I will have to use it soon.. Like 1


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vivitar Komine 200mm f3
Quite good even though heavy.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldali wrote:
Trioplan 2,8/100



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kryss wrote:
RubberFlubber...Customized,I can give you details.Many lenses qualify and can include colour anodizing of aperture/focusing ring.


I'm pretty interested, actually. Though, I couldn't afford it right now.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kryss wrote:
WOW...I love the Daffy David,I have this lens I will have to use it soon.. Like 1


Tamron BBAR Z210 Macro
It's a sleeper lens, cheap as chips, nobody cares about it, grab one while you can. It's one of the few zooms I wouldn't part with. Wink


PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my experience you can not get great painting bokeh with lens longer than 60mm unless they close-focus or macro and still not quite good as 50~60 lens!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tele-zoom.

Tamron SP 70-210mm f/3.5-4, Adaptall-2 52A, http://adaptall-2.org/lenses/52A.html









PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you consider this "pictorial bokeh"?





PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konica Hexanon AR 135mm f/3.2, on micro 4/3.
To me, the bokeh seems like brush strokes, while still remains calm.









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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually "oil painting" is what I like to avoid. I don't want to see those segregated brushstrokes. To my eye the good ones do watercolor Smile

My 500/4 is pretty good:

DSC07360-2 by unoh7, on Flickr

But in your range 100-200, I have about 30 lenses. The best, for your criteria, from mine, is the Mandler's Leitz 135/2.8 M, which is not that expensive, but not that small Smile


Mandler 135 by unoh7, on Flickr


135/2.8 by unoh7, on Flickr

I must have 10 135s. But for character none are close to this one, and it's very sharp also. For landscape and something smaller I invested in the Leica 135/3.4 APO which is really incredible, but at least half the time when I need a 135 I grab this 350$ lens. Of course 350 is actually a lot for a 135 LOL, but this is the last version, and the early ones are even cheaper, and seem to use the same formula. The googles don't come off I'm afraid, but they add mystery on the A7.mod However, you'd need to verify, but I believe the same formula was used for an R lens also, which of course does not have the googles:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/135MM-135-2-8-LEITZ-ELMARIT-R-FOR-LEICA-R-LEICAFLEX-THREE-CAM-184561-/361443498076?hash=item5427b6185c:g:kzcAAOSwAKxWYlRL
If that has BIN of 275, I would say it might be found for 250USD. Smile
While Leica users poo poo the lens, and 135s in general, DDD non-withstanding, this lens has some good curves:

Elmarit M 135/2.8 Charts by unoh7, on Flickr

One last snap this time on the A7.mod (bokeh shot is on M9):

Big Trunks by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Painterly bokeh and longer focal length:
Meyer Trioplan 100mm/2.8 or Diaplan or Pentacon projection lens





Meyer Telemegor lenses could give something near the same.

Modified Sigma YS 135mm f/2.8 as Nikon Defocus Copy DC alternative


The sometimes hated mirror lenses could give a painterly bokeh too!