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rawhead
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: Tele-Astranar 135mm f3.5? |
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rawhead wrote:
I just won this on Ebay, I have yet to receive it. Does anybody have any information on it? I haven't been able to find anything--as in zero information--on Google.
Is it a Piesker? In which case it's the same as 135/3.5 Votar? (I can't find any info on that lens, either!)
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
what is label ?
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rawhead
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
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| what is label ? |
The listing said "Tele-Astranar"
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am blind  thanks!
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Tmount lens similar to many preset lenses from early 60. If aperture has more then 8 leaves, it is above average performer for sure. The same lenses are under brand name Lentar, Tele-Lentar, Accura Supertel.
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rawhead
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
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| Tmount lens similar to many preset lenses from early 60. If aperture has more then 8 leaves, it is above average performer for sure. The same lenses are under brand name Lentar, Tele-Lentar, Accura Supertel. |
Great, thanks for the info. Yeah, I figured it must be a T-mount, although the seller said Pentax 42mm, the pitch looked wrong. I have a T-mount adapter so that's fine.
I should receive the lens in the next couple days (seller is in the same city  so I'll report back on the aperture blade count.
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Those lenses working great with Pentax DSLRs, under one condition - if adapters are good. Try to find Accura 2.5/105 in YS mount, you will be surprised how sharp they can be wide open. I think that your lens has 12+ blades even looks like cheap Focal. And this is 100% manual.
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rawhead
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
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| Those lenses working great with Pentax DSLRs, under one condition - if adapters are good. Try to find Accura 2.5/105 in YS mount, you will be surprised how sharp they can be wide open. I think that your lens has 12+ blades even looks like cheap Focal. And this is 100% manual. |
Hey Voytek, isn't this identical to the Vivitar/Hoya you got??
How did you know it was a Hoya? Mine doesn't have any inscriptions on it besides "Made in japan". 15 blades?
I couldn't believe how small this thing was either! Tiny! Unfortunately, my K20D is being serviced and I only have my Kiss F, but I don't have a T-mount to EF adapter, so I can't mount this to anything!
OK, I tried partially screwing it into the M42-EF adapter, which gave me way over infinity, but nothing at all at close ranges :p Looking forward to do some tests with this 
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
"Astranar" was a trademark of a US importer, Sterling-Howard of Yonkers, New York. They sold some Piesker lenses early on, and Japanese stuff later.
This one is interesting, because I believe it is a late-1970's lens, which is unusual for a preset. I think its the one listed on the Ihagee.com lens list as dating from 1977. It must have been a really cheap lens at the time.
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rawhead
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
It was a very cheap lens ($15) today, too 
IMHO, any lens this cute that has 15 blades is worth a buck a blade :-DDD
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ramiller500
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ramiller500 wrote:
I have an earlier vintage 135mm/3.5 Tele-Astranar with a fluted, all-metal focusing ring. Performance even wide open is very good. Based on the 4 element / 3 group optical design claimed for it by Sterling Howard, it could be quite similar in formula to the CZJ 135mm/3.5 Sonnar.
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
One possible maker for this or earlier Sterling-Howard/Astranar lenses would be Kawanon - Kawakami Seiki Seisakusho Ltd. For sure they made the very common Astranar 400mm's.
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Helios
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Helios wrote:
Hmmm, looks very close to my Cosinon 3,5/135 T2 preset ... 12 blades diaphragm .What is the minimum focus distance ? Cosinon is 7 ft. |
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Seele
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Seele wrote:
Apart from the fact that it is T-mount, it has that typical Japanese "look" in terms of barrel styling, which can never be a German lens.
Come to think of it, I have probably been in this game for too long, so much so that I can pick out specific lenses when looking at a sales table covered in lenses at a camera show. It's due to styling differences and this also applies to lenses made outside Japan, as Japanese lenses tend to be somewhat more similar to each other; especially because many were OEM to the same manufacturers. Makers such as Piesker, Tewe, Kilfitt, Angénieux etc all have distinctive stylings and can be spotted from across the room. |
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aoleg wrote:
I have one like that named "Prinz Galaxy" It takes 46mm filters, and the hood is really, really needed as it flares badly. Sharpness is so-so, but it renders pictures with a very unique vintage look (lots of various aberrations everywhere). Use it as a special purpose lens when you need that particular look.
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cheve
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cheve wrote:
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| Hmmm, looks very close to my Cosinon 3,5/135 T2 preset ... 12 blades diaphragm .What is the minimum focus distance ? Cosinon is 7 ft. |
I have rawhead's copy of the lens now. The lens has a distance scale starting at 6ft; however, the lens barrel rotation starts before the 6ft marker. Quick test suggests that the actual minimum shooting distance starts at about 3ft.
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