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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: Tamron 200-400/6.3 early preset zoom |
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luisalegria wrote:
This is a well documented lens though not very common.
It is listed on the Tamron site as a PZ-70
http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/old-lens/olm200-400.htm
I now have all but one of the early Tamron preset zooms -
95-205/6.3 - the earliest "consumer" zoom; I have shot a fair bit with it.
95-205/5.6 - mine needs work; I may get another
95-250/5.6 - quite a good performer; I have a portfolio coming on this.
Still missing is the very elusive 55-90/4
It is an early long-tele zoom of course, a preset lens with Tamrons own T-mount interchangeable mount system.
The introduction date is given as 1965, so that would make it a fairly late entry in the T-mount lens series from Tamron,
And that makes sense as the style and finish are significantly different from the other Tamron T-mount primes and zooms.
It also lacks the rear filter tray that was seen in the "premium" early T-mount lens series, though one would expect that Tamron would have considered this lens as something to be proud of. There really weren't many lenses like this in 1965.
It has few features to link it with the Adaptamatic series though, and a very different lens (200-500/6.9) was issued as an Adaptamatic to fill its slot in the product line.
It is very similar in design and construction to the smaller Tamron preset zooms, with the same "trombone" push-pull zoom mechanism, rotating front focus group and rear-set aperture mechanism. It anticipates later Tamrons by having a rather good built-in sliding hood - its extended in the pictures above. Its a fairly light piece, much more so than one would expect, similar to my Komura 400mm prime.
My copy is in fine working condition and nice cosmetic condition. No fungus, dirt, everything works, etc. I count myself lucky with this piece. It came with a semi-destroyed case that obviously gave its life to save the lens. It was covered with dust from the deteriorated foam lining in the case, so its obviously been stored unused for many years.
In use I find this very handy and well balanced, easy to hand hold and does not require a tripod at all, though it does have a rather substantial tripod mount. Its quite ergonomic, the zoom mechanism creeps somewhat but is more stable than one would expect, and focusing seems easier than on many long lenses. Constant aperture while zooming and it also seems to hold focus while zooming. As it is a zoom it has much closer focus than a prime, about 12ft/4m. Not a bad choice at all for long tele street photography, at least to my standards.
Performance - I find it surprisingly good for what it is. I try most of these just for the sake of curiosity, but I think I would consider using this one for just shooting. At 400mm wide open its as good as many 400mm/6.3 primes, and better than some. I don't like some of whats going on with out of focus areas though. No problems with contrast in spite of a much larger number of elements.
Samples -
The bird - f/8 I think
crop -
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:24 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Very interesting. The photos are nice and warm with good contrast and certainly have acceptable or better sharpness. Very good out of focus highlights, too. Yes, I wouldn't be afraid to use this lens, either, based on your examples.
According to a rough calc I made based on the info over at adaptall-2.org it doesn't appear to be all that heavy of a lens. A bit less than 3 pounds, which, considering, isn't all that bad. I have a copy of the 200-500mm f/5.6 -- Tamron's last iteration of their big zoom. The dang thing weighs over twice as much as yours -- almost exactly 6 pounds. It's a great lens but it's so heavy that I find its weight limits its usefulness. Yours is probably still hand-holdable at about 3 pounds. _________________ Michael
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Wonderful results! I tried this model last year but struggled for light in the UK winter. Thank you for sharing _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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romasurf
Joined: 14 Sep 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:34 am Post subject: |
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romasurf wrote:
Hi
Over Three years since this post but only just come across this forum so maybe a small chance of help. Alternatively I'll post a new thread and go from there.
I recently purchased the 200-400mm f6.3 Tamron lens and wondered if you could point me in the direction of the mount to a Pentax 35 slr.
I can see it's attached to the lens by three pins so removing the one attached is possible, I just need to locate the correct one for my camera.
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
You just unscrew the mount romasurf - its a t-mount. Then get a PK mount for pentax.
http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/tmount/t-mount.html _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
romasurf.. hi and welcome to the best Forum ever.I have a Tamron PK A adapter if you need,just pm me for details. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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romasurf
Joined: 14 Sep 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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romasurf wrote:
Thanks for the advice.
The original mount was attached with three screws, took this off and bought a Pentax fit T mount.
The mount came in two parts and assumed removin the threaded section would allow me to attach to the lens in the same way as the original.
Unfortunately not the case as the space left is bigger than the original mount.
Any suggestions on what mount to purchase |
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romasurf
Joined: 14 Sep 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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romasurf wrote:
Just to clarify
There is no threaded section on the lens. If there was it looks like it woul have been easy prays and the mount I bought would have been perfect.
Bit confused to be honest |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
romasurf...I offered the solution you need and I have many Tamron to Pentax adapters or you can purchase a cheap one from China and wait 3weeks and hope it works. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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romasurf
Joined: 14 Sep 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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romasurf wrote:
Hi Kryss
Sorry, I saw your message after I'd purchased an adaptor.
Happy to buy one off you, just to confirm there is no thread on the lens in question, is this a problem? |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The three screws are not meant to be removed, only loosened.
They are for adusting alignment of the lens so the top of the lens barrel is up.
Put the mount back on and tighten the screws.
A T mount is in two parts, inner ring and outer ring, held together by the three screws.
These should stay together.
To remove a T mount, just unscrew the whole thing. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
romasurf wrote: |
Just to clarify
There is no threaded section on the lens. If there was it looks like it would have been easy prays and the mount I bought would have been perfect.
Bit confused to be honest |
Are you sure it's not just stiff to unscrew? I haven't heard of any lenses having an end like the inside of a t-mount except for the Russian made Jupiters and Tairs (as discussed on my info page link above). In any case I think the reason your new mount has a gap is because the t-mounts are not made to a consistent standard. Older t-mounts particularly seem to have a smaller diameter internal collar (and don't fit on those Tairs and Jupiters).
Try putting the mount end of your lens into some boiling water, and then using eg a band/strap wrench to try to unscrew it. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
romasurf...
Made in japan. genuine tamron-pentax adapters.
PK A
PK 2off
Pentax KM 2off
Pentax M42
Decide which one you want.Regards _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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romasurf
Joined: 14 Sep 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:16 am Post subject: |
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romasurf wrote:
Thanks everyone,
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