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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: Sonnagar (Komine?) 135/2.8 ex-Praktina |
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luisalegria wrote:
I picked this up from a friend who is disposing of some ex-garage sale finds (see my Praktina listing on ebay for another of these).
When I got it the diaphragm leaves were dislocated (typical problem), stop-screw on the helical was broken (it would screw off) and it was a Praktina-mount. Opening it up it looked like someone had attempted to fix the diaphragm problem by removing 1/2 the leaves. There were 16 originally, and now it had just 8. I speculate that one or more of the original 16 leaves had broken lugs. Reinstalling 1/2 would give a symmetrical aperture again, but I would rather install all that still work as the total thickness of the diaphragm does not have to be adjusted. A "teardrop" aperture is no problem. If the diaphragm thickness is not adjusted with a shim, its more easy to dislocate them again, like in this case. Anyway, I fixed that, removed the Praktina mount, and put in my own "Frankenstein" M42 adapter, put in a new stop-screw, and adjusted the helical for new infinity focus.
"Sonnagar" is a distributors name. I have seen this same lens with different finishes also sold as a Bittco Vemar, Aetna Coligon, Accura Supertel, Telesar, and other brands. I suspect the maker may have been Nittoh Kogaku (Komine), because one of these others had "N.K.K" marked as well, and it certainly wasn't Nippon Kogaku !
Aetna Coligon and Accura Supertel
Also Coligon
Telesar
So whats good about this thing ? Its an early large-aperture 135, probably dating from the late 1950's-early 1960's, during the "Zebra" era of course, and probably for several years as they aren't really rare. Even with the Zebra design, these are quite distinctive and rather massive lenses for what they are, matching the size of even early automatic 135/2.8's. Minimum focus is a long 6ft/2m, whic was usual. Construction is solid, thick aluminum and brass in the old style.
Performance is very, very good. This thing is really sharp at f/2.8, which is not true for for most 135/2.8's. Bokeh is excellent as far as I can see. No flare problem or fringing. This is just a great lens.
Some samples taken with extension rings for close focus.
The bird -
crop -
_________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
As all lenses excellent in your hands! Nice looking lens and beautiful samples. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I like the pics so much.
And the lens too. It reminds me the style of the sankor zebra 135/3,5 lens.
Congratulations Luis. One more beauty in your hands. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
Expire: 2012-04-08
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Very sharp images and lovely color on the chili pepper. How do you get the gulls to pose for you? |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I've came really close to buying this lens in a couple different brands.
It always comes up when I'm broke.
I'm pretty sure they were Sankor made.You notice it has the E code at the end.Spiratone also used the E code for there version of this lens.
Nice lens , I hadn't seen this version before. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
My Sun version of the 135 in 3.5. Not a Zebra tho., but same maker.
http://forum.mflenses.com/sun-135-3-5-t31292.html _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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loco-focal rob
Joined: 11 Oct 2010 Posts: 1 Location: Eastern Shore Mobile Bay
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:28 am Post subject: have similar lenses of different names |
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loco-focal rob wrote:
I have a sonnagar 135/3.5 in exakta mount in excellent condition. I haven't used it, but was tempted to get a 4/3 adapter and give it a try.
(shameless flog) I've been considering parting with it. . .
Also, I have two indentical lenses with different names: Votar(exakta) and a Bittco Super Vemar(m42) both 16-blade 135/3.5, but, one has a blue lens coating and the other is yellow.
Both are clear, the Votar has oily blades and the Bittco has a dark speck in the glass.
In high contrast shots the Bittco suffers from CA, but was stopped down.
The Bittco comes in an exotic leather case, and looks expensive for its day!
I also have a tiny Taika Duo-Focus 140/4.5 16-blade that is pretty scratched up, lacks a mount, looks about the size of a c-mount lens AND mention this because I read somewhere that Bittco lenses, as well as Aetna, Coligon, Sonnagar, etc., were made by , a post-war Japanese start-up, conglomerate, distributor Taika, that were made in partnership with Taisei Kogaku Kogyo Co., Ltd. (TKK), which later became Tamron.
Capt. Jack has several Taika lenses and makes the Tamron connection, but Tamron doesn't mention Taika.
A seperate post here by luisalegria thinks Kyoei made Taika lenses. Anyway, . . .
(Second shameless promotion) The Vemar and Bittco lenses are about to go on the auction block.
I moved and lack space, so a lot of my stuff has to go. Namely, a Panagor 90/2.8 in Nikon mount.
But also, several Vivitars: (37xxx) 35/2.8 in md, 19/3.8, (22xxx) 70-150 w/2x, (28xxx) 200/3.5, macro focusing adapter in md, plus. (sorry, but they need a new home!)
ebay uid ptobum
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