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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:11 pm Post subject: Sigma APO 75-300mm f4.5-5.6 |
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marcusBMG wrote:
There is a proliferation of sigma 70/75-300mm super telephoto zooms: MF initially and then AF versions. I have no idea as to the precise place of this one in the general scheme of things, Pentax Forums lens reviews lists 7, including a listing for a 75-300mm DL which looks very similar to this and is well rated.
This was boxed with case, excellent overall condition, but described as having some haze/dirt on the front element. Proved to be a funny sort of whitish haze that wouldn't come off - it's highlighted by flash in the pic below. Perhaps age related coating deterioration? Then I noticed more haze: an element in the second group afflicted with spotting suggestive of condensation from lubricants, and a misty element further back. That I am sure is the one most responsible for causing some fogging/flare.
So that's two duff sigmas in one week!
However pics show the lens has potential... jpg's, Pentax K5. With an eye on the direction of the light significant fogging of the pics was avoided.
300mm, close focus (I think I was a bit off the max 1:4)
Crop:
200mm odd if I remember right, f8
135mm f8
Sparrow chasing - 300mm- Samsung NX20, pp'ed and exported from RAW in LR3.6 . Big crop to ~1500px, then resized.
These were showing the effects of the haze - ameliorated in LR mainly by bumping blacks. Without:
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:05 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Try vodka or stronger.
Not sure this will help the haze. I had a similar 70-210/4-5.6 and never got a tack sharp shot with it. It had the resolution but it was just no fun. Similar to a mirror lens without the donuts. |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
I was trying acetone - pretty sure that would have shifted anything shiftable. I am wary of putting too much elbow grease into rubbbing because of the risk of taking off the coating.
Doesn't look like an easy lens to get into either - front element retaining ring doesn't have slots for my lens spanner. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
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Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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mikeyp163
Joined: 22 May 2017 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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mikeyp163 wrote:
I have one of these lenses in MD fit. When I got it it had apparently bad case of fungus. As I had paid peanuts for it I decided to chance it and took it apart. This was a couple of years ago. I recall it was a simple job to get it apart as it is built in a surprisingly logical way compared with some. I cleaned it up and got it back together again without great difficulty. The only difficult bit was getting the front element seated correctly in the thread to be able to get infinity focus - I forgot to mark the threads.
I think I got the front element out by twisting it with the rubber end off my grand-daughter's bow and arrow set!!! It's just screwed in if I remember correctly.
Since I cleaned it I have been very impressed with it's performance. Very sharp, smooth focus and zoom, nice balance.
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
mikeyp163 wrote: |
I have one of these lenses in MD fit. When I got it it had apparently bad case of fungus. As I had paid peanuts for it I decided to chance it and took it apart. This was a couple of years ago. I recall it was a simple job to get it apart as it is built in a surprisingly logical way compared with some. I cleaned it up and got it back together again without great difficulty. The only difficult bit was getting the front element seated correctly in the thread to be able to get infinity focus - I forgot to mark the threads.
I think I got the front element out by twisting it with the rubber end off my grand-daughter's bow and arrow set!!! It's just screwed in if I remember correctly.
Since I cleaned it I have been very impressed with it's performance. Very sharp, smooth focus and zoom, nice balance.
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:43 am Post subject: Re: Sigma APO 75-300mm f4.5-5.6 |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
but described as having some haze/dirt on the front element. Proved to be a funny sort of whitish haze that wouldn't come off - it's highlighted by flash in the pic below. Perhaps age related coating deterioration? Then I noticed more haze: an element in the second group afflicted with spotting suggestive of condensation from lubricants, and a misty element further back. That I am sure is the one most responsible for causing some fogging/flare.
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That is exactly why i tend to skip the Sigmas when i see them for sale.... and some really are cheap and known to be good, but i've had too many duds already. Took them apart to clean them and it simply turned out to be impossible.
I know some of these defects can easily be corrected in post, but for me it is like buerokratiehasser says: it's just no fun.
Your samples do look good though! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Aye well, encouraged by mikeyp indication that this lens might not be so difficult to work on, it's in the project box and I hope to update this thread as and when.. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:40 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have the red band AF version, which is the first of several AF versions and it's a good lens, not upto the standards of things like the Minolta AF 70-210 beercan but still good enough for most work. It's not great at 300mm, but upto 250mm it's not bad at all on my a850.
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Got a temporary caffeine fix so I am just dropping in to add another irrelevant yarn.:
See that DOF graph on the body? There is at least one lens that has very curvy DOF graphs, some people could even say pleasant to look at.
It is the Sigma 28-200 and I think the weird lines come from the fact that it is a turn-zoom. Pretty thick pipe, metal.
Optically it is so-so. It is not something you would take for bird hunting but it did surprisingly good for an old super-zoom. If it is darker than daylight you got to use ISO 200, 400 anyway so the smudging is not losing too much info (APSC 10mpix) |
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