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mo
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:56 am Post subject: Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 5.5/360 tripod mount:Question |
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mo wrote:
I tried to use this lens and found it does not have the smaller tripod screw thread (I am not sure what you call it) that enables me to screw it on my tripod. It has a larger threaded hole that is far too big for my tripods screw. Any ideas on what I need to do too solve the mis-match? I do know there is the standard thread and there is another size but can not remember what it is.
I also found I need to have the lens attached to the tripod, as it is far to heavy for the poor K-01 too handle. It actually falls forward and the tripod can not hold it's weight. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:11 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
This is the tripod mount on the lens
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Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
I believe you need a "1/4" to 3/8" convert screw adapter" like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-to-3-8-Convert-Screw-Adapter-for-Tripod-Monopod-Ballhead-DSLR-SLR-/180743314376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a15241bc8
You'll find zillions of these adapters on eBay. _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:28 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks,are there any tolerance differences with these? I mean would I need to buy a few just incase... _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:52 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
mo wrote: |
Thanks,are there any tolerance differences with these? I mean would I need to buy a few just incase... |
HI Mo
No need to buy a few. These are standard 1/4" x 20 UNC to 3/8" X 16 UNC adapters that go way back - you often see the larger "European" 3/8" size on the front folding standards of old folding cameras. Also, if your tripod is the type that allows you to unscrew the tripod head, you might find that the thread that holds it on is a 3/8" stud!
Best,
Paul _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
As far as I know, they are all more or less equivalent, but there may be some variation in the quality of machining and finishing. There should be no problem with tolerance. _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:01 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the answers,the tripod head is not removable. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
I had to remove the tripod stud on mine. The 50s vintage units do not have adjustable mount screw like later 60s models.
Once removed, I used a Canon Tripod Mount ($7 copy) model A(W) clamshell type . To make up the difference in diameter I used 6 rubber seals as shown below. The seals mean a no scratch connection and the solution is very sturdy.
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mo
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:32 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Just a follow up,the little 3/8-1/4 adapter arrived today and I have inserted it into the tri pod mount on the lens, but there is about 2mm extra thread poking out of the mount...do I leave it like this or can I remove it? It does not fill me with confidence (that it can hold the weight of the lens) and I may look for a better solution. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:38 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
That sort of thing can happen as there is variation in these things.
What I have done in the past is to dremel (grinder wheel) the inner end of the adapter a bit till it fits flush when tightly screwed in. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:36 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the hint and answer, that this situation is within the realms of normalcy when dealing with these little adapters. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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lm4187
Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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lm4187 wrote:
I had the same problem with my Tair-3s. The adapters were too long. After much, careful searching on ebay, I found adapters that were shorter than the majority found on ebay. They worked very well.
I think this was the source: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-6mm-Post-Slotted-1-4-to-3-8-Tripod-Camera-Adapter-/370490686613?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5642f73c95 They ship worldwide, but you should be able to find some on your side of the pond.
At least we know that the shorter adapter exists and additional machine work is not necessary.
Cheers,
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the link,I have it bookmarked. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
mo wrote: |
Just a follow up,the little 3/8-1/4 adapter arrived today and I have inserted it into the tri pod mount on the lens, but there is about 2mm extra thread poking out of the mount...do I leave it like this or can I remove it? It does not fill me with confidence (that it can hold the weight of the lens) and I may look for a better solution. |
I had the same problem Moira - all I did was to take a large flat washer and sit it around the projecting inner flange and voila - all good.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Simplicity itself,That's why I like this forum all good solutions for one minor problem. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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