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ZoneV
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 Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:02 am Post subject: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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ZoneV wrote:
Samyang announced a manual 50mm f/1.4 lens for 24x36mm cameras and smaller - to be shown on Photokina!
https://www.facebook.com/fotogears/photos/a.195142573849174.53552.132293013467464/878676795495745/?type=1&theater
So there will be likely as well Walimex, Rokinon, Falcon, .. as well with their branded version of this lens.
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clockwork247
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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clockwork247 wrote:
@500 bucks they can forget it. a lot of 50s are pretty sharp, and MF 50s aren't that expensive. the lens might be good, but I doubt it's gonna be a popular item. |
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Gardener
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
It looks like the price will be in medium hundreds. No matter how good it will turn out to be at this price point I'd expect a chipped lens and automatic aperture a-la Zeiss. The positive, of course, is that vintage lenses will remain unbeatable as far as bang for the buck is concerned. |
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ZoneV
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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ZoneV wrote:
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@500 bucks they can forget it. a lot of 50s are pretty sharp, and MF 50s aren't that expensive. the lens might be good, but I doubt it's gonna be a popular item. |
Probably is is wideopen sharper than most classic 50mm/1.4 lenses. With a modern design with aspherical lens emelent(s) and taking care for the filter and cover glass this likely is possible, even without the retrofocus way Zeiss went with the Otus.
But onion bokeh is likely the price one has to pay for this.
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CBokeh
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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CBokeh wrote:
USM, so it will have auto focus?
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ZoneV
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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ZoneV wrote:
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USM, so it will have auto focus?
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UMC, not USM. No AF.
More info here on Samyang webpages:
http://www.samyang.co.uk/index.php/new-products/101-new-samyang-50-mm-t1-5-as-umc
http://www.samyang-lens.co.uk/samyang-50mm-f14-umc-lens.html
There are full resolution sample images on the first site. Not bad.
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CBokeh
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Samyang 50mm/1.4 |
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CBokeh wrote:
| ZoneV wrote: |
UMC, not USM. No AF.
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That's it, ruin my dream with the cold slap in the face of reality! 
...I really should look into learning to read... |
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Langstrum
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
Based on my experience with Samyang, the advantage is probably the sharpness of this lens at wide open is superior to most of other 50mm lenses and they provide most of the popular mounts for convenient uses. However, different from 85/1.4, there are many good 50mm lenses with much cheaper price, so I don't know whether this lens is worthy or not.
I found that in Korea, the Samyang cine lens are so popular among the Koreans, but even second handed lens are still not that cheap.
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ZoneV
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:12 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I love to see comparison images between Samyang 50 and other 50 mm lenses.
I suppose the Samyang to be shaper wideopen than Canon EF 50/1.4, all Nikon 50/1.4, all Zeiss 50/1.4 - all those have no aspherical elements and are stressed Double Gauss designs.
The Sigma Art and Zeiss Otus 55 are likely better - with their new construction far away from normal Double Gauss.
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