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propellor
Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 205 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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propellor wrote:
Hmmmmm, so he only solution would be to shave the mirror and file the lens.
I have think about that.
Thanks guys,
Bart. |
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. _________________ .: APO-Maniac :. |
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
propellor wrote: |
Hmmmmm, so he only solution would be to shave the mirror and file the lens.
I have think about that.
Thanks guys,
Bart. |
Not necessarily. It varies for each sample of the 5D and perhaps also different samples of the lens.
See here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/933139/0#8851436
In the fourth picture you can see that he did not shave his 5D. Picture 3 shows that it's an actual 5D. |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Keysersoze27 wrote: |
Superb colours, Mark !!! |
Thanks!
@Brunner, good to hear! As soon as the weather gives me half a chance, I'll post some serious sample images. |
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propellor
Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 205 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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propellor wrote:
AhamB wrote: |
propellor wrote: |
Hmmmmm, so he only solution would be to shave the mirror and file the lens.
I have think about that.
Thanks guys,
Bart. |
Not necessarily. It varies for each sample of the 5D and perhaps also different samples of the lens.
See here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/933139/0#8851436
In the fourth picture you can see that he did not shave his 5D. Picture 3 shows that it's an actual 5D. |
That looks easy to do (I love my Dremel). I'll buy it and see what happens. Thanks. |
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piljke
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
BRunner wrote: |
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
DSG wrote: |
BRunner wrote: |
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
Compared to a Domiplan it is _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
DSG wrote: |
BRunner wrote: |
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
Maybe not, but the eyeball I plan to put behind it totally is.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
DSG wrote: |
BRunner wrote: |
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
Compared to a Domiplan it is |
Domiplan is the worst 50mm mf lens I ever tried. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
DSG wrote: |
BRunner wrote: |
Kram wrote: |
50/1.8 HFT Planar (Singapore) at 2.8. |
Congratulation, you've got one of the best 50mm lens ever made. |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
Compared to a Domiplan it is |
Domiplan is the worst 50mm mf lens I ever tried. |
You have'nt tried the CZJ 50mm f2.8 Tessar then...Thats the worst lens in my collection |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
DSG wrote: |
You have'nt tried the CZJ 50mm f2.8 Tessar then...Thats the worst lens in my collection |
Then you can't have tried the Domiplan! The Tessar far outshines it.
Praktica cameras in the 60's were offered with three standard lens options. The most expensive was the Pancolar, then the Tessar and the Domiplan was way cheapest, with performance to match. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3437 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Hey Peterqd, you forget the Meyer/Pentacon 50mm 1.8 for the Praktica. I think this one was a little bit more expensive than the Tessar; CZJ Pancolar was more pricey. |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:45 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
Hey Peterqd, you forget the Meyer/Pentacon 50mm 1.8 for the Praktica. I think this one was a little bit more expensive than the Tessar; CZJ Pancolar was more pricey. |
Could be. The brochure that came with my Praktica Nova 1B only mentions the Domi, Tessar and Pancolar, but the Oreston is in the complete list of CZJ/Meyer lenses in the manual. I didn't buy it new and I didn't have a choice. Anyway, that doesn't change the fact that the Domiplan was the pits! _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
For me, this is a very special lens.
Posted images here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/first-rollei-hft-planar-50-1-8-shoot-t35106.html#1096938 |
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
DSG wrote: |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
It is. It's sharpness, contrast and colors from f1.8 to f2.8. No one of 50's I have or had can beat it. Including Pancolar 1.8/50, Summicron 2/50, Pentax M and FA 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, Pentax M, A, F, FA 1.7/50, Tomioka 1.4/55, 1.2/55, Porst 1.2/55, Helioses... I'm very curious about Contax Planar 1.4/50 which is on the way to me. _________________ .: APO-Maniac :. |
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Keysersoze27
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 466 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
BRunner wrote: |
DSG wrote: |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
It is. It's sharpness, contrast and colors from f1.8 to f2.8. No one of 50's I have or had can beat it. Including Pancolar 1.8/50, Summicron 2/50, Pentax M and FA 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, Pentax M, A, F, FA 1.7/50, Tomioka 1.4/55, 1.2/55, Porst 1.2/55, Helioses... I'm very curious about Contax Planar 1.4/50 which is on the way to me. |
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Including all my 50s .... and 1.4/50 Planar. _________________ Canon EOS 5D MkII , EOS 50E, Contax RTS, Olympus OM2n, Nikon Z6ii
28mm: Zeiss Distagon 2.8/28 MMJ
35mm: CZ Distagon 2/35 ZE , S-M-C Takumar 3.5/35
40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
55mm: Fujinon 1.8/55 EBC
58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
85mm: Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 AEJ
90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
Macro:Leica Macro-Elmarit R 2.8/60, Micro-Nikkor Auto 3.5/55 Compensating type (1964) |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
BRunner wrote: |
DSG wrote: |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
It is. It's sharpness, contrast and colors from f1.8 to f2.8. No one of 50's I have or had can beat it. Including Pancolar 1.8/50, Summicron 2/50, Pentax M and FA 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, Pentax M, A, F, FA 1.7/50, Tomioka 1.4/55, 1.2/55, Porst 1.2/55, Helioses... I'm very curious about Contax Planar 1.4/50 which is on the way to me. |
The Canon FD 50mm f1.4 and Hexanon 50mm f1.7 are very good and might give the Planar some competition _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
BRunner wrote: |
DSG wrote: |
No he has'nt. There is nothing special about the 50/1.8 HFT Planar. |
It is. It's sharpness, contrast and colors from f1.8 to f2.8. No one of 50's I have or had can beat it. Including Pancolar 1.8/50, Summicron 2/50, Pentax M and FA 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, Pentax M, A, F, FA 1.7/50, Tomioka 1.4/55, 1.2/55, Porst 1.2/55, Helioses... I'm very curious about Contax Planar 1.4/50 which is on the way to me. |
BRunner, with my first test images, what struck me was exactly what you said, the way it renders colours and the sharpness. I shot almost all my samples between 1.8-2.8. Good close focus distance too. My new favorite. |
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Keysersoze27
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 466 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
Only Nikkor 1.8/50 AiS version 1 from my 50s can come close at the sharpness @1.8 of the Planar 1.8/50.
(Central sharpness with tripod at 45cm ) _________________ Canon EOS 5D MkII , EOS 50E, Contax RTS, Olympus OM2n, Nikon Z6ii
28mm: Zeiss Distagon 2.8/28 MMJ
35mm: CZ Distagon 2/35 ZE , S-M-C Takumar 3.5/35
40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
55mm: Fujinon 1.8/55 EBC
58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
85mm: Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 AEJ
90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
Macro:Leica Macro-Elmarit R 2.8/60, Micro-Nikkor Auto 3.5/55 Compensating type (1964) |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1571
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
I'd like to revitalize the thread with a question. I've got a Rollei Planar 1.8/50 made in Singapore in 1977 following the Paepke Fototechnik who repairs Rollei analog products and who friendly replied to me when I sent them the S/N. I has metal and not rubber focusing ring. The coating is not marked on the lens barrel (like HFT), it just says Planar 1,8/50 Made by Rollei s/n SL. But a red-rainbow relex is well seen under a particular angle. Stunnig lens, impressive 3D effect, beautiful color rendition and microcontrast.
What I discovered testing it, the lens gets pretty much of flare. It is predictibly visible directly opposed to the sun. For example, here is a frontal shot of sunset, which gives red and yellow light spots.
I imagine, those of you who have this lens or its analog expreienced the same effect? (I slightly pushed the contrast).
But what estonished me, in the low light the lens catches even worse some artificial light which is weaker and normally less obtrusive. Look at that night test shot (here I also slightly pushed the contrast). Are not those multiple lamp reflexes weird?
Did you have such an experience with your Rollei Planar or Color-Ultron? If yes, what is your way to cope with it? Is there a good remedy, like a special filter? |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
That sort of green ghosting has been reported from Sony a7r users recently. Are you using a filter? _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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simbon4o
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 390 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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simbon4o wrote:
The shot with the sun - the flare is from the lens.
The second shot - it is possible to be UV filter or other filter in front of the lens or the lens itself.
Only one 50mm lens I have tested is good enough to shoot against bright lights and it is SMC Pentax M 50 1.7. It is hard to make flares with it. _________________ 10-300мм 4.0 - 1.2 - 4.5 NIKON&Sony bodies / Sony 10-18, Pentax 28 2.8 II, CZJ 35 2.4, Nikkor DX 35 1.8, Samyang 35 1.4, KMZ 50 1.7, FDn 50 1.2 L, Nikkor 55 2.8, Rokkor 58 1.2, Soligor 85 1.8 Preset, Samyang 85 1.4, Canon FDn 85 1.2 L, Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, Canon FDn 135mm 2.0, Nikkor 180 2.8 ED, Tair 300 4.5
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1571
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Yes, ManualFocus-G, the lens came with a nice B+W UV filter on it. It sits so well on the lens that I did not have an idea to get it off. I think, it is from the same period, the 1970s. More precisely, the filter ring says: B+W 49ES 1*. Both shots were made using NEX-5N, with a FOTGA adapter.
simbon4o, thanks for your tip, next time I will go into the night with the filter off. Agree with your judgment on SMC Pentax lens. I tested an S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50. It cuts any flare to death! But Planar gives a visibly stronger 3D effect, hard to resist. |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1571
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
I made another test in order to see if my Planar gets flare because of the UV filter it came with. So I waited for the night came and made some shots with NEX-5n. Let's see the difference.
Here is a shot with the UV filter on:
The flare is similar to what I already showed in my first post.
And here is the shot with no filter:
The image esthetics apart, what the filter makes, it only sharpens the flare spot given by the lens itself. This Planar is heavily sensitive to stray light!
That ruined my hope for the filter to be the source of that parasitic reflexes in night shots. Maybe some coating issue in my case, even if I can see no visible defects.
But I am not at all dissapointed with the other (and the main) qualities of the lens. The image quality it produces, both for portraits and landscapes, is outstanding.
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