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 Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: ROKKOR MC 58/1.2 - first impression |
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: ROKKOR MC 58/1.2 - first impression |
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francotirador wrote:
After getting a second Rokkor and change the rear optical group, the first images. And I can not have infinity focus, for very little.
Adjusting ring the last glass, I have reduced by 0.5 mm.
Shooting JPG 72 DPI, Without postprocessing
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Wide Open - 1000 asas
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natebarnz wrote:
Looks good!! I love this lens.
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francotirador wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
| Looks good!! I love this lens. |
I think between this lens and me. There will be a relationship with a future .... 
Thanks
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estudleon wrote:
Hi Franco.
Very, very nice pics, man.
The rokkor does his job, eh?
The 55-58 range is the ideal to me in FF not RF.
Be careful with the friendship with the rokkor, the other good lenses that you have will be jealous. 
Regards, Rino.
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francotirador wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
Hi Franco.
Very, very nice pics, man.
The rokkor does his job, eh?
The 55-58 range is the ideal to me in FF not RF.
Be careful with the friendship with the rokkor, the other good lenses that you have will be jealous.
Regards, Rino. |
 , Upon receipt of the new adapter will make a comparison between this and the Pancolar, and that fight between them.
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estudleon wrote:
I think the same thing to do with the pancolar. I guess that the pancolar will win, it's a great lens.
My two cents for the pancolar.
Rino.
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Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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francotirador wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I think the same thing to do with the pancolar. I guess that the pancolar will win, it's a great lens.
My two cents for the pancolar.
Rino. |
Two cents is too little, The difference is in the bokeh, in favor of Pancolar, but focuses more on Rokkor, and is more evenly in the center and edges. In addition 1.2 
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estudleon wrote:
I will tell you what I found in the pancolar 50. Very nice bokeh, no doubts, and zeiss colors (something warm).
Not so sharp at the borders, in my copies at least. And at the center is sharp from 2,8 but hasn't the punch that I have found in others lenses, like the S-M-C 1,4. And I can't describe with others words. Sharp but not punch.
The S-M-C (among others 50 s) images have more fine details, perhaps less contrast but more details.
But both are my prefer 50s in M42 mount.
I'm curious about the comparison pancolar vs rokkor.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I think the same thing to do with the pancolar. I guess that the pancolar will win, it's a great lens.
My two cents for the pancolar.
Rino. |
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francotirador wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
I think the same thing to do with the pancolar. I guess that the pancolar will win, it's a great lens.
My two cents for the pancolar.
Rino. |
+1 |
Let's see, is like the Sonnar 135/3.5 and 135/2.8 Pentacon, preset. If possible we must have both.
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Attila wrote:
| francotirador wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
I think the same thing to do with the pancolar. I guess that the pancolar will win, it's a great lens.
My two cents for the pancolar.
Rino. |
+1 |
Let's see, is like the Sonnar 135/3.5 and 135/2.8 Pentacon, preset. If possible we must have both.
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pwnguin wrote:
I've got this lens (the Rokkor). Thing is great at f/2, but is too soft wide open.
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francotirador wrote:
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| I've got this lens (the Rokkor). Thing is great at f/2, but is too soft wide open. |
Yes, but from f2, which clearly, very sharpen. & More. Is among the best I think
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