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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:10 pm Post subject: Rip out lens or save for posterity? |
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blotafton wrote:
This camera was described as fully functional but the shutter is stuck half open. I planned to shoot a roll with it but that obviously won't work.
I could take it apart for the lens and try to adapt it. It was only about 11 EUR, but I would feel bad destroying such a work of art.
And attempting a repair myself is probably a bad idea.
I have never seen or heard of a Plastogon lens so it might be rare. Is it a triplet?
What do you think?
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2931 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
A very nice looking camera. I always assumed the plastogon was enna's version of the tessar formula but I may be wrong. I would be reluctant to shred the camera, personally. I'm sure their are examples out there that are worse for the wear, and thus more suitable to sacrifice to the gods of optics. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2931 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Odd that enna used both plastigon and plastogon names......
_________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Yes that is strange with the lens names! And you get surprisingly little info when googeling about it.
I'm usually all for sacrifices to the gods (pun on my username) but in this case I'm starting to lean against it. Considering everything else seems to work, even the light meter! |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:15 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Given that your Braun uses a Compur-Rapid shutter, maybe you can find a junker with the same shutter and use it to practice on, so you'll have a bit of experience at it when you dive into your Colorette. _________________ Michael
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I would try and save it, there are lots of beyond repair cameras that would good candidates for lensectomy. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1749
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:24 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
I had what might be a related problem with my Konica III. After a LONG period of disuse, the shutter became frozen. I was VERY upset because the camera means a lot to me.
What I did:
I tapped and tapped and tapped and tapped. Finally the shutter began to have some motion. I continued like that until finally full function was restored. My takeaway:
Do not leave the camera alone for long periods of time. Take it out periodically and operate the shutter a few times to "shake out the cobwebs". |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:26 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Hey guardian what a neat trick! I took a small block of wood and started to tap away at it and it worked. All it took was about 300 taps.
This Colorette will live on! I will try to use it more than the previous owner, thanks a lot! |
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kansalliskalaCafe
Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Posts: 602 Location: South Finland, countryside
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:44 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Hey guardian what a neat trick! I took a small block of wood and started to tap away at it and it worked. All it took was about 300 taps. |
did you shoot a youtube video of the procedure? _________________ (my normal account password still on another computer) |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
No video sorry, didn't expect it to work. But I can show you the tool, a piece of birch wood. I just began hitting the poor thing on the lens and saw tiny movement of the shutter right away.
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1749
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Hey guardian what a neat trick! I took a small block of wood and started to tap away at it and it worked. All it took was about 300 taps.
This Colorette will live on! I will try to use it more than the previous owner, thanks a lot! |
I am always happy to be of service. Merry Christmas to you.
It's a very nice camera, BTW. I am glad you did not dismantle it.
For everyone:
While I am very pleased blotafton's block of wood worked for him, I do find that choice a tad bit aggressive. What I use is one side of an old toothbrush handle. The handle is made of hard plastic, but the striking surface used is one side only of that handle, the side which is slightly padded.
With my Konica III I also repeatedly cocked and fired the shutter during the tapping procedure.
I have owned my Konica III for roughly sixty years. I am the original owner. The camera is in absolutely pristine condition, and I thought my storage procedure, replete with silica gel, was spot on. Obviously I was seriously in error on that one. The key, again, is actually to operate the camera every now and then. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2931 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
So....You just needed a bigger hammer? _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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kansalliskalaCafe
Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Posts: 602 Location: South Finland, countryside
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
guardian wrote: |
While I am very pleased blotafton's block of wood worked for him, I do find that choice a tad bit aggressive. What I use is one side of an old toothbrush handle. The handle is made of hard plastic, but the striking surface used is one side only of that handle, the side which is slightly padded. |
Welcome to Sweden!
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
How about vibration? put the camera on to of the washing machine _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10543 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:31 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Local paint store have machines to shake gallon cans of paint...
Or just toss into empty clothes dryer... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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