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AussieBob
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:29 am Post subject: Reflex Nikkor 500mm - a different point of view |
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AussieBob wrote:
I've heard a lot of negative comments about this lens & how hard it is to get sharp shots. I recently won one cheap on ebay ($165 AUD) I needed a long lens but dont have the budget for a "proper" one, so I thought I would give this one a try. The first couple of times I used it, it was mounted to a lightweight tripod - no good, then I used my heavy old Manfrotto tripod - better, but still not sharp. Then I tried using a small bean bag to just rest the camera on & bingo! Sharp shots almost every time. The image quality seems quite good & it doesnt even seem that hard to focus. I use Nikon D80/D70 bodies & the focus confirmation dot even works in good light. Now I am loving this lens & the best part is that I dont have to lug around a tripod, just a small bean bag which fits in my camera case. I highly recommend these cheap old lenses (mine is the 2nd one made between 1968-1981) Just plonk it on a bean bag & shoot away. What do you think of the images?
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stingOM
Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 3168 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
Both looks great, particularly #2. |
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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
The lens looks good ..... you've taken very nice photos, especially the last one _________________ Daniele |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:42 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Very nice shots! I had much the same opinions about the Sigma 600mm f/8 mirror after I bought it. In my case, I had a sufficiently stout tripod, but the shots were still lacking in sharpness. Then I switched focusing screens to a plain matte screen in my Canon A-1, and that helped, especially after I bought an eyepiece magnifier. Now I was getting some pretty sharp pics. Then I bought a Canon FTb with mirror lock up. Because it did not have inerchangeable focusing screens, that was a bit of a problem, but I could still use the magnifier for focusing. Being able to lock up the mirror helped even more, I believe. Finally I got an old F-1, so I had everthing I needed -- a plain matte screen, mirror lock up, a eyepiece magnifier and a stout tripod. At last I was getting the most out of the mirror as was possible. And it was capable of rendering very good images.
Shoulda thought of the bean bag trick, though. That would have probably saved a lot of aggravation.
A lot of folks just don't realize -- or perhaps want to be bothered with -- the level of preparation one needs to make to maximize these lens's results. _________________ Michael
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:00 am Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
#2 is great _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
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Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
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Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
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Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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AussieBob
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: |
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AussieBob wrote:
Thanks for the comments. Here is my rig. I've shot at speeds as low as 1/30 second with sharp results. The bean bag just seems to absorb all the mirror slap & camera shake. It's even unaffected in high winds, almost makes my tripod seem redundant. No need to worry about using high ISO or mirror lock up. If any of you have a mirror lens or any long lens, you should give this method a try.
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3248 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
#1 for me please.
Excellent timing and background. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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vaughaag
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 25 Location: GB
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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vaughaag wrote:
Both shots are lovely, brill light and colours!
Rgds,
Dave _________________ Bodies | Bronica ETRS : Minolta 9000AF : Nikon F4 : Sony A200
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
A 500mm mirror is my top lens. You can shot unbelievable images as your samples shows very well.
_________________ Rolf |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I haven't seen any images from this lens before, and yours are excellent I love the composition of number two.
Really intruiged by your technique with the bean bag...I always seem to forget mine...not anymore!! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Okay you've sold me on the bean bag. Now, as for placement with your rig, where do you locate it? Atop the camera? Atop the lens, or perhaps as close to the camera/lens mount as possible, I'm wondering. Or does it matter? _________________ Michael
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AussieBob
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:16 am Post subject: |
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AussieBob wrote:
When I use the bean bag, all I do is find something to rest it on like a low fence or a short pole or a rock, any solid support that is available. Then I just place the bean bag on it & rest the camera on top of the bean bag just like in the photo above. I have even shot from the lying down position on the ground with the bean bag/camera sitting on top of my camera bag. It's a good idea to carry an old towel with you just in case you have to lie on grass or dirt. The bean bag is full of heavy beans, it's one of those ones that you can heat up in a microwave oven & use as a sort of hot water bottle in bed. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Ah, for some reason I thought you were setting a smaller bean bag atop your rig. Interesting way of doing things. _________________ Michael
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AussieBob
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: |
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AussieBob wrote:
Here a couple of pics (excuse the bad quality) of different methods for resting the camera on a bean bag. It is really easy. The important thing is that you hold the camera while the shutter is fired. Don't use the self timer or a remote release. Your hands on the camera will help absorb any vibration.
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