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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: RE Auto Topcor 300mm 5.6 |
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Macca wrote:
I picked this up tail end of last year for $50. I`ve been unable to convert it to Alpha mount due to the screws on the mount being too difficult to remove without damaging them so can shoot on the Alpha only with a short exakta/m42 extension tube giving me a very limited range.
I eventually took the plunge on a Nex 5R recently and have tried it out once or twice, not in optimal conditions and the LCD on the Nex isn`t great for birding etc.! but it gives a rough idea of performance...
On the A99 wide open, no pp.
Crop
Slight crop on this one
Nex 5R
Sorry it`s just a few bird shots to date, I will try more variety as I go along, I need a VF for the Nex though as it`s photography by guesswork/focus peaking at the moment for some of these.
I will say it`s sharper than any budget 300mm I`ve tried to date and it is certainly better than my Minolta Big beercan 75-300mm at the long end which is now sold.
p.s. these were all handheld, it`s got that lovely lightweight Topcor build quality the rest of these lenses have and the MFD is very good for an oldie too., 15 feet though I would say closer as the Robin was no more than 10-12 feet away at points. _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Wow, very nice results! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
I never bothered 'cause i thought it was slow....
and i have a MC SONNAR 4/300 CZJ (DDR) ... wich is not real fast....
But wow !
Maybe i should look out for one.... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Thanks Klaus, Mir.
It`s a keeper again, but they all are really, there was a 500mm 5.6 on UK ebay recently, I was sorely tempted but could not find a single web based image taken with one. I wonder if anyone we know pulled the trigger.. I would really like to see some shots taken with that. _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice shots, I was debating to get one, you easily tipped the scale in favour of getting it, I still have to hunt for a 200.
Looking forward to more shots. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57852 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Slower lenses usually bring better results, due they are already stopped down by factory I have same excellent experience by Tamron SP 300mm f5.6 , great result! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 395 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
Very impressive! |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:54 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I got one too in a set with my 85. Must try it when there is a chance. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:17 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
wow...nice!
this brand is really guarantee of good lens _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Calvin I imagine that 85mm hasn`t been far from your camera and the poor 300mm feels left out! _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Macca wrote: |
Calvin I imagine that 85mm hasn`t been far from your camera and the poor 300mm feels left out! |
Who knows.
Both lens are in my friends hand now. I think he may not give me back the 85 until next year. LOL _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Billou
Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 169 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
Quite nice detail ! Is it possible to have a picture of the lens also ? |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:43 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Lovely results. Despite you feeling that you have problems focusing with the NEX you managed to nail that first one. It just takes time with the NEX. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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cyrano
Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 856 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: |
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cyrano wrote:
It works very well, these Topcon lenses are good quality it seems,$50 well spent I think. _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Thanks again for the comments.
Billou no problem, some quick shots here. The stats for anyone interested are weight 715grammes on the kitchen scales. Length 190mm at Maximum Focus distance, extending to approx 210mm at minimum focus distance.
Similar to the 135mm,it has a built in extending hood which is slightly tatty on my copy though this seems to have protected it from some scrapes in the past. It`s pretty clean inside for a Topcor, it has one small internal hair which I`m leaving at the moment. Later uniformly gold/yellow type coatings, some earlier ones have different colours I`ve noticed. Lightshow has the antonetto book and may be able to shed some light on years,serials, coatings etc. now?
_________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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Billou
Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 169 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
Thank you for the informations ! |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
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Nice shots, I was debating to get one, you easily tipped the scale in favour of getting it, I still have to hunt for a 200.
Looking forward to more shots. |
Well, I now have a Topcor R 200/4 & a Topcor R 300/5.6 on their way to me, I was so happy with my Topcor R 135/3.5, I had to take the chance on these, just need the 9cm to complete the set. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Ah, Lightshow you may have just cleared something up for me when you mentioned "R". That is what my 5.6/300 is, not RE like Macca. Honestly, I haven't gotten the same level of results as Macca. I hope you do better with your R. And the R 200 is faster than the RE 5.6/200 that I have. I'll be interested in seeing those results too.
I need to give the R 300mm a good chance in bright sunlight, which I have not yet done. Here is all I've been able to come up with, but only the first two images are legitimate; the others are merges of two or more images.
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Mark
Joined: 01 Dec 2012 Posts: 251 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mark wrote:
Love the crows! Btw telephoto on the Nex is probably not the best idea, the body is way too small. I used it a few times with a Pentacon 200mm and CZJ 135mm, but even these pretty light lenses made it totally imbalanced. For me it was even strange to use the combo on tripod. _________________ Latest post on my blog (no new posts):
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Mark wrote: |
Love the crows! Btw telephoto on the Nex is probably not the best idea, the body is way too small. I used it a few times with a Pentacon 200mm and CZJ 135mm, but even these pretty light lenses made it totally imbalanced. For me it was even strange to use the combo on tripod. |
Mark: I have written about this before. When I first got my NEX-5N (no viewfinder) I found it nearly impossible to do outside photography in bright light. Using a large lens only made it that much more difficult. The problem was three-fold; viewfinder hard to see in bright light, my eyes weren't good enough up close, and holding the camera steady was nearly impossible with arms stretched out. I was not going to be able to use the camera unless something changed.
I purchased one of the cheap viewfinder hoods and this nearly solved the problems. I could now see the viewfinder in daylight, but for me the diopter was not strong enough, so I had to wear reading glasses too. I no longer had a problem keeping the camera steady because it was now braced against my head. However, I could not get used to the tiny size of the camera and kept unintentionally hitting buttons, most often putting the camera into movie mode. To solve that, I made a handle and positioned it so that my trigger finger was well placed and my thumb could hit the focus aid button which I had assigned to the bottom right. I am now very comfortable up to 200mm with no problems hand holding. I don't care about the camera now having increased in size because I never liked the small size anyway.
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Mark
Joined: 01 Dec 2012 Posts: 251 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Mark wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Mark wrote: |
Love the crows! Btw telephoto on the Nex is probably not the best idea, the body is way too small. I used it a few times with a Pentacon 200mm and CZJ 135mm, but even these pretty light lenses made it totally imbalanced. For me it was even strange to use the combo on tripod. |
Mark: I have written about this before. When I first got my NEX-5N (no viewfinder) I found it nearly impossible to do outside photography in bright light. Using a large lens only made it that much more difficult. The problem was three-fold; viewfinder hard to see in bright light, my eyes weren't good enough up close, and holding the camera steady was nearly impossible with arms stretched out. I was not going to be able to use the camera unless something changed.
I purchased one of the cheap viewfinder hoods and this nearly solved the problems. I could now see the viewfinder in daylight, but for me the diopter was not strong enough, so I had to wear reading glasses too. I no longer had a problem keeping the camera steady because it was now braced against my head. However, I could not get used to the tiny size of the camera and kept unintentionally hitting buttons, most often putting the camera into movie mode. To solve that, I made a handle and positioned it so that my trigger finger was well placed and my thumb could hit the focus aid button which I had assigned to the bottom right. I am now very comfortable up to 200mm with no problems hand holding. I don't care about the camera now having increased in size because I never liked the small size anyway.
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Yes, I remember now. There was a disucssion about it before. Btw that's my problem with the Nex system: the NEX 3/5 bodies are incredibly small, which is really an engineering achievement. But the size of the whole system is not that much smaller than other APS-C offerings. For example I have a Pentax K-5 now, and the size of the body + kit lens is not noticeably larger in my camera bag, than the comparable NEX kit was. But I have to admit that your solution looks cool! (And that wooden handle is just awesome! Sony should really sell something like this! ) _________________ Latest post on my blog (no new posts):
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
woodrim/woodgrip There is a connection. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I found that there was a lack of inertia with my NEX-7 and light tele's, plus the high pixel density made getting sharp shots a challenge, I found that using a slightly heavier lens helped, so did using a mono pod or resting the camera/lens against something, and so did using a faster shutter speed. I also found that some days I'm better at holding it steady, other days, not so much _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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