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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:10 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Sure Hoan,you can use the smiley as well.. Thanks for the compliment. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Finally I've decided to stay with my Minolta 50.17, is pretty sharp (at least sharper than the contax zeiss 50/1.7 at wide apertures) and can take this pic:
and I've also ordered the Zenitar M2S, it was so cheap...
both was suggested by Ian _________________ TELLTALE
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:51 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Rick1779 wrote: |
Finally I've decided to stay with my Minolta 50.17, is pretty sharp (at least sharper than the contax zeiss 50/1.7 at wide apertures) and can take this pic:
and I've also ordered the Zenitar M2S, it was so cheap...
both was suggested by Ian |
The difference of many modern double Gauss 50s are small. If you say these two photos are taken with a planar, most people might not discover they are takn with a rokkor. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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viniciuspedrozo
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 19 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:11 am Post subject: |
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viniciuspedrozo wrote:
Hi Guys, you can answer way this lenses is naked?
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
Fun thread !
I've just acquired a West Germany Carl Zeiss Planar 1.8/50 HFT and 1.4/50 HFT...
I've yet to try them....
@ Klaus
member should know you became wise only after acquiring a zillion lenses _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
@we3fotography
@7plus_pictures
@_whats.that.car_ |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:07 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I recently acquired the 1.8/50 and 1.4/50 HFT Planars too. I'm looking forward to comparing them to my Jena MC Pancolars 1.8/50 and 1.4/50 _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
Most interesting as the Pancolar 1.4 is uncommon...
Looking forward to see it !
Here are good words for the Planar HFT 1.4/50
http://captjack.exaktaphile.com/rollei/Rolleilenses.htm _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
@we3fotography
@7plus_pictures
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:00 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The Jena lenses are late Prakticar bayonet models, they aren't actually labelled Pancolars, but that is what they are. The 1.8 is actually much less common than the 1.4. I'll include the Pentacon 1.8/50 Prakticar in the test too. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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anktonio
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 219 Location: Spain
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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anktonio wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I recently acquired the 1.8/50 and 1.4/50 HFT Planars too. I'm looking forward to comparing them to my Jena MC Pancolars 1.8/50 and 1.4/50 |
I will be careful. Your opinion will be interesting. In my tests, the HFT 50/1.4 was indistinguishable in all hits to Canon FD 50 /1.4. The Zeiss 50/1.8 against Minolta MC 55/1.7 PF offered differences between them, but neither was a clear winner. None beat to Hexanon AR 50/1.7 in sharpness (or perceived sharpness) at f2.8.
Happy shots! |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:57 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
The difference of many modern double Gauss 50s are small. If you say these two photos are taken with a planar, most people might not discover they are takn with a rokkor. |
I would even go further. Most people would not be able to find out the real lens behind a picture if not known in advance. In other words: If you state that a picture has been captured by a 2.000 $ lens most people would say that this is a wonderful lens, even if in reality it was only a 20 $ lens. That's psychology. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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enzodm
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 350 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
I would even go further. Most people would not be able to find out the real lens behind a picture if not known in advance. In other words: If you state that a picture has been captured by a 2.000 $ lens most people would say that this is a wonderful lens, even if in reality it was only a 20 $ lens. That's psychology. |
this is also how wine tasting goes https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/quilted-science/201002/does-price-tag-have-taste _________________
Canon 60D, Tamron 17-50VC, Canon 55-250IS, Sigma 50-150/2.8 plus:
Wide: Mir 20/3.5, Kenlock 24/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Yashikor 35/2.8, Mir 37/2.8
Fifties: Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Pentacon 50/1.8, Zenitar 50/1.9, Leica Summicron 50/2, CZJ Pancolar 50/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5 , Rikenon 55/1.4, Petri 55/1.8, Helios 58/2
In the middle: Cyclop 85/1.5, Nikon 100/2.8
135s: Tamron 135/2.5, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar 135/4, Tamron Twin Tele 135-225
Tele: Soligor 200/2.8, Pentax Super Takumar 200/4, Hanimex 400/6.3, Makinon 500/8
Various: Schneider-Kreuznach Componar 135/4.5, Tominon 105/4.5, Vest Pocket Kodak meniscus, Wray Supar 2"/4.5
Sony Nex 6 plus:
Industar 69 28/2.8, Fujian 35/1.7, Rokkor 50/1.4, Jupiter 50/2, Cosmicar 50/2.8, Industar-22 50/3.5, Leitz Elmar 90/4, Canon Serenar 100/4
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
enzodm wrote: |
tb_a wrote: |
I would even go further. Most people would not be able to find out the real lens behind a picture if not known in advance. In other words: If you state that a picture has been captured by a 2.000 $ lens most people would say that this is a wonderful lens, even if in reality it was only a 20 $ lens. That's psychology. |
this is also how wine tasting goes https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/quilted-science/201002/does-price-tag-have-taste |
I know that very well, as I love very good and not necessarily expensive wines. Especially in your country you get very good ones for little money!
Same is true for almost everything and it's also an old marketing strategy or let's better say trick.
Like the China produced original designer polo shirts all coming out of one production lane and at the end just different brand tags are affixed which generate different prices for the identical product. I am not talking about the fakes!
Same story with some German produced cars out of the same famous holding belonging to an Austrian family. Just a different brand on the almost same car result in a far higher price.
Or the HIFI cable trick in the audio appliances industry... and so forth.... _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Miles Teg
Joined: 11 Apr 2013 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Miles Teg wrote:
memetph wrote: |
About Rollei ,many people say that the Rollei Planar HfT 50 1.8 also sold under Voigtländer Ultron is the best Planar of those times , better than the C/Y. Difficult to judge such statements. This lens is not difficult to find. |
From my very limited perspective I would agree with that. I had two 1.8/50 mm Planars, both in in Rollei QBM mount. One with Carl Zeiss label and one with Rollei. Both were pretty much on par and very nice when used wide open. I also have a 1.7/50 Planar in C/Y. On an APS-C mirrorless I liked the 1.8/50 mms more in terms of wide open sharpeness and contrast. |
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