Olympus E-M5 released

stingOM · Expire: 2012-12-27

Sample shots up to ISO 25600
http://m43blog.com/2012/02/07/olympus-e-m5-sample-shots-at-different-iso-settings/
http://www.omuser.com/viewthread.php?tid=179813

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

yeah, this was kinda my point on the sensor-size issue. technology is running it down! looks like totally useable results through 6400. imo as long as a sensor can deliver good low noise images at 3200 we should all be happy. i dont know if i'm going to get this or not, but i cant imagine more of a homerun for olly. if these results stand up, theyve pretty much hit every pro wanna be hot button, plus weatherproof. it will be a mirrorless standard. i can understand why people can decide against buying it, but not why people refuse to buy into it!

stingOM · Expire: 2012-12-27

stingOM · Expire: 2012-12-27

hands on preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yutTntpDhE

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

simon its a good system even with mf lenses, which is almost exclusively how i use my ep2. as with apsc i give up on the wide end, ive got film and my x100 for that. but my nice 24-25s are nice 50s, my excellent 35-40s become excellent and fast portrait 70-80s, ans my really good 135s become fast really good 270s that are perfect for wildlife etc. in fact i am really enjoying my M mount summicron-c 40/2 on the olly, just fabulous rendition.

having said that, coupling this cam with ollys new 24-100 zoom, WOW!

WolverineX · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject:

more samples of iso performance on this site
http://www.eprice.com.tw/dc/talk/1400/4698964/

stingOM · Expire: 2012-12-27

WolverineX · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject:

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

Those samples look awful! I'd love to see some proper RAW output...those JPGs look smudged all over the place.

WolverineX · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:01 am Post subject:

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

the sensor has been rejiggered entirely, and i understand the AA filter weakened significantly. calm down boys, i'll bet anyone here iso up to 3200 will be very good, and much much better than previous 4/3 iterations.

WolverineX · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:17 am Post subject:

iangreenhalgh1 · Expire: 2014-01-07

People actually shoot at ISO 3200???

I've almost never used anything other than 200 and 400 on my NEX.

I have no interest in IS, I own a tripod.

Same with AF, I have no interest in that.

The samples do look crap, I'm not seeing the attraction of this camera.

It does look pretty though.

Ymmot · Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 168

I sure don't shoot at ISO 3200 (dunno for sure if my camera even has that setting Laughing

never go past 800 anyway).

I don't own a tripod (unlike most of the people here probably), I'd probably leave it home most of the time, as a good one is probably close to being as big or heavy as the rest of my kit I carry normally. I do however enjoy the cropfactor for telelenses and closeup, so the in body IS is an advantage for me.

It will also mount almost any lens with adapters including the 4/3 glass, which is very nice as well to me.

So I guess everyone has their own preferences what they want in a camera. I for one am not totally sold on the ergonomics yet, even if the battery grip looks nice, but it probably will not come cheap (just as the camera will remain out of my budget for quite a while).

As far as samples go, I think waiting for a site like dpreview to make them such that they can be compared directly to other cameras in a controlled setting (same subject, similar lighting etc.) is a better idea.

poilu · Expire: 2019-08-29

already at 200 iso skin and hairs have p&s quality with artifacts
they should show clean samples without noise reduction
why should I look 3200 iso samples if 200 iso is already plastic
200 iso look like 1600 iso on FF

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

what a silly waste of time and even more silly conclusion. you are seriously going to challenge m4/3 iso200 IQ with the plethora of excellent work done with a prior generation sensor? cmon, you dont have to invest in the system, but that statement is just ridiculous.

jito · Joined: 29 Nov 2011 Posts: 113

Here goes an opinion from a noob, for a change, I guess.

Either I'm missing the point of this camera or this pretty much looks like a Ferrari with an engine of a Fiat Punto. Who is this camera supposed to appeal to?

I agree with Ian, IS seems like a cheap selling point to the half-serious amateur who supposedly should buy into this. The same applies to high iso performance to some extent. What kind of serious photography is done at such high iso? (not being ironic, just asking)

The weather sealing is a cool feature, but the guy demonstrating it does it in a too cautious way to be convincing. But thumbs up for having a sip of fresh water before spilling it on the camera.

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

not sure what pictures you guys take where IS isnt important. most folk dont like walking around with a huge tripod in our pockets. Laughing

of course its important, especially with macro and tele work. it is a huge consideration for many photographers, though obviously not for ALL photographers. its important to me over 50% of the time.

respecting high iso, if you only take pix in daytime, thats great for you, but certainly you must realise others routinely take pictures at night, or in dark places, or inside for gods sake! that doesnt seem like much of an imaginative stretch to me. if youve spent any time on this forum there are loads and loads of high iso work here.

and since we have no idea who made the 'engine' or what it looks like, pissing on it seems both premature and a bit silly. i honestly am coming to the conclusion that we are spawning a race of people who simply derive joy from abstract complaining about pretty much anything. from my google search it appears this camera is 'appealing' to a startlinlgy huge number of people across the spectrum all over the world.

look, i might not buy this cam, or the xpro1, or the nex7. but that doesnt take away from the fact that each represents a huge advancement in the qualitative march of mirrorless cams. theres really no reason to criticize any of them, especially those that are not even on the shelves yet!

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

I absolutely shoot at ISO 3200! It can be the difference between getting a night shot and getting a blurred mess. These samples, whichever way you look at it though, are poor. The 2x teleconverter function surely just crops the original image, so not sure why that would make a difference?

Anyway, it's still the coolest looking m4/3rds camera out there and I'm sure will sell well!

rbelyell · Expire: 2014-01-31

graham i wouldnt put too much stock in these photos. ive been looking constantly for samples over the last 2 days and these are it, so to me are suspect. most who have actually HELD the cam said they didnt even have batteries; those that did were not allowed out of the conference room! we should reserve judgement til the actual production version--which TMK doesnt exist yet--In fact does exist and produces authenticated images! i will guarantee you the images will compete with pre xpro1 apsc up to 1600 at least, maybe 3200.

Ymmot · Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 168

Considering that the images of the watch are cropped to 16:9 mode instead of 4:3 (if you calculate 12/9*2592*4608 you get to approximately 16 MP) and that they indeed seem (digital zoom is listed as 2) to be taken with the digital teleconverter means that the image is interpolated by the camera to get to the normal output size in pixels. Obviously this is not going to benefit image quality in any way at all (i very much agree that the image quality in those shots is quite sh*tty Rolling Eyes

).

So I really would not take these shots as representative.

As far as automotive equivalents this is like the stuff you see at carshows, the mechanical/electrical stuff may or may not be there and the exterior sure looks pretty, all buffed and shiny, though you are never going to be sure what you get exactly until you sit in it at the dealers and pop the hood or when it is in front of your door.

my_photography · Expire: 2016-12-25

Am I the only one who thinks some older OM SLR cameras look better compared to this new E-M5? (This has nothing to do with performance though).

WolverineX · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:14 am Post subject:

bogolisk · Expire: 2011-11-18

With 17.5mm f/0.95 ???

Olivier · Expire: 2015-08-06

Sure the 4/3 sensor doesn't help at all for taking wide photos.
But it's ok for telephoto.

About IQ, I find the Olympus PEN E-P2 quite nice :
Shot with a Tamron SP 500 F8 mounted on a monopod. Jpeg coming out of the cam. I just adjusted light and contrast a bit. Click on picture to open in new window (1600x1200)