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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: Nikkor-P 105/2.5 N-AI with heavily scratched front glass |
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ducdao wrote:
I always heard the Nikkor 105/2.5 has an excellent reputation and I also knew that scratched front element has virtually no impact on image IQ but I was always skeptical.
However, with the results posted below I'm fully convinced so I thought I should share with you guys. I will post the actual picture of the lens later.
All shots were taken wide open with my K100D. Yes, it mounts perfectly and stays on put.
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Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Looks like a nice lens. The bokeh is very nice and it's sharp. Good to see the scratches don't affect the image. Very nice shots, you nailed the focus spot on. |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Looks like a nice lens. The bokeh is very nice and it's sharp. Good to see the scratches don't affect the image. Very nice shots, you nailed the focus spot on. |
Thanks! Focusing was easy as the focus ring is really smooth and precise.
Here are the actual pictures of the lens. Looks like some idiots passed few rounds of sandpaper on it...
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Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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Nesster
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Now that is pretty sanded down, when you said scratched I figured ok maybe it's a couple scratches, and the pics came out great.... I was not expecting that cataract of a road rash on the front element. I'm amazed. _________________ -Jussi
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Pancolart
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
According to your images of the lens front i'd say it performs at 70% only. But you can hide that with small prints and post-production. Nevertheless you managed to emphasize the idea heavily used lenses should be respected.
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
According to your images of the lens front i'd say it performs at 70% only. But you can hide that with small prints and post-production. Nevertheless you managed to emphasize the idea heavily used lenses should be respected.
I like your combination of Nikon and Pentax. |
When you say 70%, is it across the board of only for the contrast and/or IQ? To be honest, I looked at 100% on all images shot from f2.5 through f8, I don't see any IQ issue. The contrast might be impacted a bit but it's easily fixed in PP. Beyond f8 I start to see IQ and contrast issues.
I have a couple more of those Nikkor 105/f2.5 that are in very good condition, perhaps I will do a shootout when time permits, hopefully next week or so. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
Now that is pretty sanded down, when you said scratched I figured ok maybe it's a couple scratches, and the pics came out great.... I was not expecting that cataract of a road rash on the front element. I'm amazed. |
Yeah, me too I'm extremely surprised! I got the lens for practically nothing so I didn't expect anything from it but looking at the results, I might give it few more spins _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Opposite direction
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Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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gaeger
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
I'm amazed by the results of that Nikkor! Now I'm even sadder that I didn't bid on a 180mm 2.8 ED that want on bay for $71 yesterday! It had what in comparison was one minor scratch!
I always wonder how a lens like your 105mm gets to be like that! _________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
incredible and gorgeous images! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
ducdao wrote: |
I have a couple more of those Nikkor 105/f2.5 that are in very good condition, perhaps I will do a shootout when time permits, hopefully next week or so. |
This thread has me wondering how my badly scratched lens (seen below) will compare to one with only a few scratches. I got the lens on e-bay "as new" & when we reported the condition a replacement was sent. I will do a comparison tomorrow.
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Another one...
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Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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pat donnelly
Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 666 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: Lovely Find! |
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pat donnelly wrote:
Great lens!
Not an expert, but seems fine, still a shot picking up flare would be interesting?
The additional flare wide open or under 5.6, might be instructive?
Thanks for showing it to us, looks 98% to me! We all love the limping pet! _________________ ---------------------------------
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Lovely Find! |
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ducdao wrote:
pat donnelly wrote: |
Great lens!
Not an expert, but seems fine, still a shot picking up flare would be interesting?
The additional flare wide open or under 5.6, might be instructive?
Thanks for showing it to us, looks 98% to me! We all love the limping pet! |
Will definitely test the flare this week-end.
Can't believe you have over a thousand lenses I'm only halfway there _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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nixland wrote:
Wow, congratulation, the lens still shines. _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
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sadness wrote:
I was complaining about a copy of helios 44-2 that has minor scratches barely visible now that's a scratched front element. _________________ My site motorai.ro as motorcycle addict, I post on the blog of the site.
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