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std
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 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: nFD 2.8/200 vs Rokkor 2.8/200 ? |
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std wrote:
Hi All,
In your experience how does the 'Canon nFD 2.8/200 II' compares to a 'Minolta MD Tele Rokkor 2.8/200' ?
I'm interested mainly in CA and contrast wide open. The nFD i have is too contrasty and has CA wide open.
Not that i need another 200 mm prime but just of a curiosity
is the Minolta significantly better?
Thanks
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Stephan, Did you read the test peformed at Rokkorfiles?
http://www.rokkorfiles.com/200mm.htm
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woodrim
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I wonder how it compares to the Zeiss Sonnar at roughly the same price point.
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std
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Hm ... i almost forgot about this site.
Seems there is no much difference between them judging by the review. The CA are still there even if you close the Minolta to f 5.6.. similar as with the Canon.
About the Jena Sonnar i remember it had CA at 2.8 but if you close it at f4 they almost disappear. The downside was that it was big/heavy lens.
The nFD is only 670 gr. - very light and compact. I think i will stick with it for a while.. unless i find for a good price something which is apo corrected.
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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stingOM
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
Go for the Tamron 80-20mm f2.8 and you won't regret it. |
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std
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std wrote:
Zooms i'm trying to avoid..too big for me.
Maybe I need to clarify - I will use it on micro 4/3 and this big chunk of glass will look terrifying on the mini Olympus.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Forget both and by a CZ Sonnar 180mm Contax 
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stingOM
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
| std wrote: |
Zooms i'm trying to avoid..too big for me.
Maybe I need to clarify - I will use it on micro 4/3 and this big chunk of glass will look terrifying on the mini Olympus. |
True, but you are after wide aperture lens with f2.8 on a 200mm tele, so I doubt you will find anything compact in this range. |
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
| std wrote: |
Zooms i'm trying to avoid..too big for me.
Maybe I need to clarify - I will use it on micro 4/3 and this big chunk of glass will look terrifying on the mini Olympus. |
I considered the nFD 200 II, and was convinced it really was an excellent lens, but went for nikon AIS 180ED instead. It's better than the Canon 200, I think it's safe to delcare 
Of course it's something like 800 grams.
So I have been on a mission for light long primes.
Lightest 200 I could find is the OLY 200/5, at 380 grams. But in the process I discovered the pentax 150/3.5 @ 290 grams.
Both are coming, and I'll post some shots.
Here's the lightest 135 I could find, with pentax and oly equivelents, the MD 135/3.5, last night:
bigger
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/5805987567_2360f8d614_b.jpg
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Himself wrote:
Excellent composition!
The ridges and the small hills lead the the eye to the summit.
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martyn_bannister
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martyn_bannister wrote:
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Here's the lightest 135 I could find, with pentax and oly equivelents, the MD 135/3.5, last night:
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If you want a really nice small, light, 135mm then check out THIS lens also HERE |
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hemisferico
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hemisferico wrote:
I tried several Canon 200 f2.8, all the versions in fact on my GH1 and I was disappointed with all of them, I ended up with a 135mm f2 Fdn that was superb. Its a little harder to find but worth it. I've also had excellent results with the Nikon 180s, lots of different versions there.
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std
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std wrote:
Well the Canon 2.8/200 it's not that bad - especially if you close it a bit.
but I think Attilla is suggesting the right lens here
It's Zeiss and it's Sonnar - what else you may need.
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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uhoh7
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
| martyn_bannister wrote: |
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Here's the lightest 135 I could find, with pentax and oly equivelents, the MD 135/3.5, last night:
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If you want a really nice small, light, 135mm then check out THIS lens also HERE |
TY very much for that--I will find one.
Now, how about a 200mm under 370 grams?
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Antoine
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Antoine wrote:
Did not find a thread with Minolta 200mm f 2.8 so will post here.
I took this picture with rokkor 200mm f 2.8 and 2*300S (hence 400mm f5.6) at circa min distance (1.8m) hence a "macro"picture (yes not quite, just an abuse of language). Looks good to me... although had to convert it to 1200*1600 pix to load it.
No correction, taken at f2.8 (i.e. 5.6 400 mm) so fully opened in our garden (sun was on the flower so background looks dark)
200 mm 2.8 is 700g and 300 s is 210 grams so 400 mm f 5.6 is 910g.
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