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Joosep
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 305 Location: Estonia, Tallinn
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: My fresh Jupiter-9 (and Industar 50-2). |
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Joosep wrote:
Greetings from Estonia !
So, I got this really good bargain. I got the Jupiter-9 for peanuts and he threw in an Industar too. I first thought they would be in crappy condition. BUT OH MY GOD. I even have the original paperwork. Both came with the original casings. No scratch marks, like Im the first one using. The Jupiter even has that cheap russian factory smell on it. So, I was in seventh heaven.
As soon as I got home, I threw the Jup-9 on my Canon and started testing. I had mixed feelings at the beginning, I really wanted to like it, but..... But then, something happend, and I was like nooooo waaaay. This lens is mad. The bokeh is maaaad. Wide open, its pretty sharp and has that portrait "glow" to it. But if you stop it by one step, a whole new world opens up. At F4 its the sharpest lens I own (not kidding).
And when I had had my fun with the Jup-9. I thought I would give the pancake a try. Didnt expect anything, but again, OH MY GOD. Under low light it loses contrast as you can see, but I made a few snaps during daylight, It was very very good (yes I know its 3.5, but do you know how SMALL it is ?)
So enough of talking. You guys look them yourself. Absolutely no PP !
The casing for J-9. As you can see, the price tag was 40 rubles
The color cast is very nice.
Now you have seen the package, lets peek thru...
Some CA. But its sharp and the bokeh.......
No comments needed.
Look at the bokeh. LOOK ! Mmm calming....
Here you can see the "fog", especially on the lower "crystals".
F4.0 and ... It speaks for itself.
All the pictures were taken with Canon EOS30D on neutral and no PP was applied.
Gonna go find some pretty girls, soon you guys will see some portraits !
Piece,
Joosep _________________ The future is analogue.
23 cameras, 25 lenses and counting. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats! great review, great results
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Gonna go find some pretty girls, soon you guys will see some portraits ! |
that's the part of the review I prefer _________________ T* |
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Welcome - good test to show the bokeh. _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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systema
Joined: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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systema wrote:
I also bought a Jupiter-9 M42 lens on eBay for a bargain price (this was around a year ago). The seller was very kind when I asked about how I would go about fitting the lens on a K-mount Pentax DSLR. Over the course of a few days and numerous messages, he told me to check out the forums over at mflenses.com, and that he threw in a couple mf lenses.
I received the package a couple days later; he also included the Industar 50-2/3.5 and a Pentax K50/2 to my surprise - my experience with the lens have been identical with yours! |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
I am looking forward to the arrival of my M42 I-50-2, even more so after seeing your shots .... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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Chris Watson
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 168 Location: Fort Worth
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Chris Watson wrote:
Great pics! I'm especially impressed with how sharp the image from the J-9 is wide open. It's not a perfect lens especially wide open as at least my copy is prone to a glowing effect when it films reflective objects like anything white. Once closed down to 2.8, it's like it becomes a totally different lens. From 2.8 on, it's acceptably sharp and produces a very pleasing and vintage image. It's unlike anything else in my lens collection and I find myself reaching for it day to day when I shoot to see what I can get out of it. It's the very definition of a "grower" for me. _________________ Chris Watson
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Greetings from California! (for now)
Something over a year ago, I got a Jupiter-9 (US$70) and Industar-50 (US$13) separately on the bay. No good package deal like yours, darn! Both are dull aluminum, M39 mounts, and have sticky focus. The stickiness is especially severe on the I50, so it is mostly used on macro tubes (where it is GREAT!). I like the J9's optics but it's just a pain to use; twisting it for close focus is likely to unscrew the lens from the adapter! I'm more likely to carry a Nikkor 85/2 -- I modded its base a bit for a better fit on my Pentax K20D. I'll tell myself: use the J9 more. Will I listen to myself? _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Rio, those rascals will clean up just fine. The I-50 is really easy to do. Tutorials are available. Even I, with my near nerveless fingers, could clean it up and re-grease. Works prefectly ... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
fish4570 wrote: |
Rio, those rascals will clean up just fine. The I-50 is really easy to do. Tutorials are available. Even I, with my near nerveless fingers, could clean it up and re-grease. Works prefectly ... |
You mean I can't just give it a squirt of 3-in-1 oil?
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Ah yes, re-lubing -- I gargle for CLEAN GREASE INDUSTAR LENS and get many how-to hits. Yes, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Meanwhile, I'm spinning the Jup-9 back and forth, loosening it a little -- and it DOES loosen, but I also notice a slight strange scent, almost like solder resin. I guess that's the wax volatilizing. Anyway, the J9 is now loose enough for use. I should go try a few shots now. Ciao. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Industar 50 is the easiest lens I have ever worked on. Remember to only loosen the screws on the focus barrel. No need to take them out and if you drop them, they've gone. The indy is a tiny lens and is quite slow at F3.5, but is sharp throughout it's range. It flares like a pair of 70s jeans thougfh, so needs a hood and to be used with care.
I have the Alu M39 Jupiter 9. These are supposed to be better wide open than the M42 version and I must say that mine is very good at F2 _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I have the Alu M39 Jupiter 9. These are supposed to be better wide open than the M42 version and I must say that mine is very good at F2 |
I'll repeat the old mantra: a bit soft wide-open, nicely sharp when stopped down. And I'll repeat a truism: we humans like to see things nice and sharp, but we can tolerate (or even expect) softness when seeing features like faces and anatomy. So shoot people and cats and lawn gnomes at f/2, and architecture and 'scapes and techno-detail at f/8.
One of my quirks: On a fast screwmount lens, I'm likely to use a cheap flanged non-infinity-focus PK-mount adapter. Why? The excuse for a fast lens is to use it wide open. Subjects suitable for a wide aperture usually aren't out at infinity. For closer subjects, we want infinity to be blurred. Also it pulls in the near-focus point a bit -- to about 24in / 60cm on the J9.
Form vs function: the alum J9 looks a bit glaring on my black K20D -- maybe I need a bright red Kx? A bit of a fashion statement, there. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Riorico> I'm not sure why you've quoted me there as your response doesn't really have a lot to do with my reply?
It is good advice though. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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