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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: Miranda bayonet 50mm f1.8 E on Olympus EPL1 |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
Some time ago I picked up a Miranda bayonet 50mm f1.8 E lens for a trifling sum. Thanks to some time on my Uncle's lathe, I have now concocted a micro-4/3 adapter for it. The adapter is made from a Miranda bayonet teleconverter and a canon Fd to micro 4/3 adapter that was useless due to poor fit meaning the lens was not held securely.
The pictures below show the lens on my EPL1 and the adapter. I have plans to improve the adapter as I am really impressed with the lens performance. the lens has a lovely solid fell to it, though it is quite heavy. It looks like it is only single coated.
Note that I have put a 21mm diameter baffle in the back of the m4/3 adapter.
I usually find that the usability of old fast lenses wide open on 4/3 and m4/3 is marginal due to their tendency to give a significant amount of "haloing" or glowing around edges. Some lenses are particularly bad in this respect (the Konica 40mm f1.8 springs to mind) and really cannot be used wide open whilst others (e.g. the Zuiko 50mm f1.8 ) can be used in situations where there is no strong lighting. I was very surprised to find this lens gives probably the cleanest result of any 50mm f1.4 to f2 lens that I have tried when used wide open. The barbed wire on the pylon shown below can be relied upon to reveal any problems. The result with the Miranda is very good. You can see how the sharpness improves when stopping down and by comparison with the f5.6 result judge the amount of haloing in the f1.8 picture. The haloing is there, but is not serious.
Maybe the baffle I added to the adapter helps to give a clean result. I should mention all the shots in this report were taken with a small hood fitted. _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
Here are some shots with the Miranda taken wide open. Sharpness is good but not exceptional. The bokeh is a bit odd.
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Riku
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
Good job and seems like an excellent lens! I have one Miranda lens that was sold to me as M42 but it seems like a 44mm screw mount... |
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
These were all taken at f5.6 or f8. The lens is very sharp when stopped down. No post processing other than resizing has been applied to any of these pictures. The lens seems to result in intense but not especially vivid colours.
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
Riku wrote: |
Good job and seems like an excellent lens! I have one Miranda lens that was sold to me as M42 but it seems like a 44mm screw mount... |
Yes, prior to the bayonet, Miranda used a 44mm screw thread which is often mistaken for 42mm. The throat of the bayonet mounts are threaded to take the older lenses. _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
After another 4 hours (!) machining, the adapter is now visually much improved.
The offset of the aperture indicator away from vertical is deliberate as I found it the most convenient position for gripping the "ears" of the aperture ring. _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
My admiration - that's seriously good work there. And a great cat. These old Miranda lenses are nothing to sneeze at. _________________ -Jussi
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
My admiration - that's seriously good work there. |
Thanks! (I have to acknowledge the invaluable assistance of my Uncle, without whom this would not have been possible, and the use of his workshop).
Nesster wrote: |
And a great cat. |
Yes, but not normally a very cooperative model _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
I've just taken these. This Lily is African Queen.
What do people think of the bokeh? The f1.8 shots have a bit of "glow" around the edges, but it is not unpleasant. The first two shots are at f1.8, the last at f4. No post processing, just resized.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Wow that is the best painting like bokeh I think I have seen. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Mo took the words right out of my mouth! Matter of fact, you could do an all bokeh image and it would be an impressionist painting. Excellent result. I have to try my Miranda Soligor 50/1.9 like this, only on film. _________________ -Jussi
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
I really like this lens, so I thought I'd post some more shots. Minimal PP (just a little contrast boost). Comments are welcome.
Mark
Taken at f2.8
Taken at f4 think (maybe f2.8 )
Taken at f2.8
Taken at f2.8
Taken at f4
Taken at f4
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Those are wonderful samples.
I really like the colors and bokeh. _________________ Stefan
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
What a great effort with regards the adapter! Looks like your patience has paid off, the old Miranda looks very good _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
std wrote: |
Those are wonderful samples.
I really like the colors and bokeh. |
Thanks. Yes, I agree about the bokeh and colours. The bokeh is somewhere between the completely smooth and very structured. It adds character without being distracting. The colours are intense without being vivid. The pictures don't leap out of the screen, but I like this. _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
What a great effort with regards the adapter! Looks like your patience has paid off, the old Miranda looks very good |
Thanks.
What impressed me with the Miranda is that it works well wide open. I find that old 35mm lenses of f2 or faster give very diffuse results when used wide open (on my Oly EP3 and EPL1). For example, I would not use the OM Zuiko 50mm f1.8 wide open except in low light conditions. The Konica 40mm f1.8 is terrible wide open, but superb at f2.8 and beyond. The Miranda certainly has some glow wide open, but it is still fully useable if sharpness is not a priority. And this is with a (I think) single coated lens.
Mark _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
Riku wrote: |
Good job and seems like an excellent lens! I have one Miranda lens that was sold to me as M42 but it seems like a 44mm screw mount... |
Is it the 5cm f2.8? That's a really great lens. Most common of the screw mount miranda lenses. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interestingly, I just picked one on these up in M42 mount branded as an Auto Soligor. This must have been from the period when AIC owned both brands. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I need to add this lens to the list of Miranda lenses I'm going to buy. Very nice Bokeh. I wish I had access to a lathe. Very nice job on the adapter you made. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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