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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: Microscopy -- achieved |
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David wrote:
A few weeks ago I posted about reversing lenses on my K-7 for extreme macros -- up to 5.85X magnification with my 18mm zoom. I set a goal for achieving microscopy -- 10X magnification. To that end I bought a 55mm to 49mm male-male reverse ring. I put a 42-to-49mm step-up ring on the male-male ring and screwed the assembly into my macro bellows. With my Canon FD 24mm 2.8 mounted on the back, I managed to enlarge an area of about 1.25mm to fit the K-7's 25.6mm-wide sensor. That's a 20.48X magnification factor.
Here's what that looks like on a millimeter ruler:
I had to make a small compromise and move the lens slightly back to focus on the ruler's surface.
Here's what it looks like in the real world on tree bark and lichens:
THe DoF at this magnification looks like it's only a few microns. The small lichen spot in the second image was smaller than a pin POINT. The DoF on the images changed if I rested my hand on the tripod, and may have changed if I leaned on the tree (which is about an 24-inch caliper.) So this is pretty tricky, and fairly useless, in outside-world applications. I tried to get a flower petal, but the DoF was thinner than the petal's texture and even with no perceptible wind the flower kept moving in and out of focus. At ISO 500, f2.8, the exposure in full sun required 1/30th of a second. That's equivalent to approximately a FOUR SECOND exposure at f16 on ISO 100.
Those bark shots were 1/8th of a second at f2.8 with the camera set at ISO 400. So there's a lot of light loss.
Anyway, microscopy achieved, I now have to figure out a practical use for it and how to do it repeatedly. I think I need a heavy-duty copy stand, like an old repronar, retrofitted to hold any camera. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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a20010494
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 396 Location: Perú.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
nice!! _________________ www.estudiocaleidoscopio.com |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Angenieux 6,5mm F1.8 Retrofocus @ F2.8, about 25:1
(A pic I made while reproducing this experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyBldC4Ra4)
Small format lenses are working pretty nice when reversed They have a higher resolution than most normal lenses and fast apertures! _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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Alex H
Joined: 25 Dec 2011 Posts: 344
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Microscopy -- achieved |
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Alex H wrote:
David wrote: |
A few weeks ago I posted about reversing lenses on my K-7 for extreme macros -- up to 5.85X magnification with my 18mm zoom. I set a goal for achieving microscopy -- 10X magnification. To that end I bought a 55mm to 49mm male-male reverse ring. I put a 42-to-49mm step-up ring on the male-male ring and screwed the assembly into my macro bellows. With my Canon FD 24mm 2.8 mounted on the back, I managed to enlarge an area of about 1.25mm to fit the K-7's 25.6mm-wide sensor. That's a 20.48X magnification factor.
Here's what that looks like on a millimeter ruler:
I had to make a small compromise and move the lens slightly back to focus on the ruler's surface.
Here's what it looks like in the real world on tree bark and lichens:
THe DoF at this magnification looks like it's only a few microns. The small lichen spot in the second image was smaller than a pin POINT. The DoF on the images changed if I rested my hand on the tripod, and may have changed if I leaned on the tree (which is about an 24-inch caliper.) So this is pretty tricky, and fairly useless, in outside-world applications. I tried to get a flower petal, but the DoF was thinner than the petal's texture and even with no perceptible wind the flower kept moving in and out of focus. At ISO 500, f2.8, the exposure in full sun required 1/30th of a second. That's equivalent to approximately a FOUR SECOND exposure at f16 on ISO 100.
Those bark shots were 1/8th of a second at f2.8 with the camera set at ISO 400. So there's a lot of light loss.
Anyway, microscopy achieved, I now have to figure out a practical use for it and how to do it repeatedly. I think I need a heavy-duty copy stand, like an old repronar, retrofitted to hold any camera. |
Besides a copy stand, You will also need a stage micrometer and stacking software... |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:09 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Microscopy by definition starts at 50x and requires two-stage magnification. All smaller than 50x is macro. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3245 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
David, at that high/huge magnification you have to work with a slide stage ( velmex, newport, thorlabs,etc) and a stacking software. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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