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Marek
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Marek wrote:
Hi, as I do love butterflies I'm considering one more (of course MF) macro in the future, but only Volna-9 and Tokina-Bokina seems to be broadly known or used here. Any more tips please?
I prefer
• silvers
• longer lens
• bokeh, drawing before sharpness
• out of collectors item prizes (Macro Plasmat  )
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
I would recommend the Vivitar 135/2.8 Close Focusing. It is only 1:2 Macro but that is plenty for butterflies.
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john_
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john_ wrote:
I personally own the Leica R 60 2.8 and the Bokina and I can recommend both for optical quality.
However, it's not too easy to shoot alive stuff with those as you don't have that much working distance. Adding/removing the 1:1 extender can be a hassle in the field. I have no experience with it but for your purpose the FD 200 f4 macro sounds like a very good choice with a mfd of more than 30cm for 1:1 without extension tubes.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fdlenses/fdmacro/200macro.htm |
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
A lot depends on your price range, what are you willing to spend?
The earlier recommended Vivitar 135/2.8 is an excellent lens and it's quite cheap.
I swear by my Vivitar Series 1's, the 90/2.5 and the 90-180/4.5, but they cost a lot more.
Is weight an issue? If you need small and light a Cosina/Vivitar 100/3.5 produces good results and doesn't cost much. The two Series 1's above weigh a lot more.
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calvin83
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calvin83 wrote:
Get an old silver enlarger in 135mm+, put it into a 39-90mm M42 helicoid(paint it in your favorite color) with some silver M42 tubes as spacer.
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vlousada
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:38 am Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
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| Get an old silver enlarger in 135mm+, put it into a 39-90mm M42 helicoid(paint it in your favorite color) with some silver M42 tubes as spacer. |
+1
Very nice suggestion!
Also, according your preferences I was tend to suggest JUPITER-6 - the earlier silver version!.
It is a nice (very BIG) lens however min focus distance is only 2mt... Maybe with some extention tube it could be useful for you..
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PWhite214
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PWhite214 wrote:
For larger insects and spiders a 70-210 or 100-300 with extension tube(s) works very well.
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Marek
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Marek wrote:
No extension tubes recommendations any more please I use 'em anyway!
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Pontus wrote:
You need a long working distance for insects, especially butterlies.
We don't know what sensor you are using. If it is a small sensor, a 100mm lens could do just fine, if you are using a full frame sensor you need something longer.
If you can afford it look at the various 200mm lenses out there like the Nikkor 200/4 or the Canon FD 200/4. If you have less to spend I strongly suggest that you google the Vivitar 135/2.8 Close Focusing that I mentioned. Please notice that the normal Vivitar 135/2.8 will not focus as close.
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visualopsins wrote:
M42 Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 1:4/100.
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shapencolour wrote:
For insects optimal fl will be 100mm.There are a lot very good land not expensive 90-105 macro macro lenses,thoug vast majority does 1:2 without extension ring.This is what I use within that range:
Minolta MD Rokkor 100/4 macro
SMC Pentax M 100/4 macro
Canon FD 100/4 macro
Nikkor AIS 105/2.8 (this does 1:1)
Tokina ATX AF 100/2.8 (also 1:1)
Tamron adaptall 2 90/2.8 (macro 1:1)
Tamron adaptall 2 90/2.5 (macro 1:2) - beware of reflectons on the sensor!
Sigma 90/2.8 macro
Vivitar/Kiron 100/2.8 macro (1:1)
Zeiss Makro Planar ZE 100/2 (this one ain't cheap)
For longer reach:
Canon FDn 200/4 macro 1:1
Sigma Apo Macro 180/5.6 1:2 - tiny little midget
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Tervueren wrote:
Or if your budget allows the Voigtlander Apo Lanthar 125mm, I wish I'd never sold mine as I don't think I'll be able to replace it |
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Marek
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Marek wrote:
Thanks again, I checked almost all and I still value Volna-9 bokeh (as well as various aperture effects possibilities) the most by far. But I learned a lot in this thread...
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kds315* wrote:
Great, so I don't have to say anything 
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Great, so I don't have to say anything |
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listera wrote:
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| Thanks again, I checked almost all and I still value Volna-9 bokeh (as well as various aperture effects possibilities) the most by far. But I learned a lot in this thread... |
Bokehwise, Vivitar CF should not be underestimated...
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padam wrote:
The Olympus OM Zuiko 90/2 is a superb lens. |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
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| The Olympus OM Zuiko 90/2 is a superb lens. |
Indeed! Not exactly cheap, though...
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