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ReiLord
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 Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: MC Helios 44M-6 2/58mm - SAMPLES |
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ReiLord wrote:
All photos made with Alfa A200 and MC Helios 44M-6 58 mm
Click the image to enlarge the photo to the original size.
ISO 100, 1/1000 s., f/~8
ISO 100, 1/2500 s., f/2
ISO 100, 1/3200 s., f/2
ISO 400, 1/160 s., f/~3
ISO 100, 1/2000 s., f/2
ISO 100, 1/640 s., f/~8
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats ReiLord! nice samples, great colors, superb bokeh |
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ReiLord
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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ReiLord wrote:
Thanks Poilu 
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SIGMA EF-500 DG SUPER
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
wow, #2 and #4 are great! congrats! 
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Schnauzer
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Schnauzer wrote:
These lenses are good way beyond their price. Nice samples.
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
I feel embarrassed to always leave my M44-6 in cabinet. I shall shoot some this weekend. I love the cat one especially. Thanks for sharing.
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Nice images.
Bokeh, OK.
Great contrast. The M6 has better contrast than the M7?
Till I see in the internet, it seems that it's true.
Rino.
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Helios 44-3
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Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
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Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
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Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
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Canon AV1, 1,8/50
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ReiLord
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ReiLord wrote:
I can't answer that question because i don't know the newest version M7 so i can't compare these lenses.
Here it is: HERE so You can buy it for some tests
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eeyore_nl
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Very nice samples, and lovely contrast and bokeh! |
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Gus Helios
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Gus Helios wrote:
Those are really nice. Love the cat shot and the purple flowers in the middle of the field.
I have the 44M and the 44-2... How many more of these do I have to buy? 
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
These four:
H-44 early version (silver, 13 blades)
H-44-3 MC (the only MC version with 8 blades)
H-44-6 MC (sharp)
H-44-7 MC (sharp)
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
ReiLord inspires me and I have some test in weekend and I was wrong to underate this one. Thanks, ReiLord.
at F5.6
at F2.8
at F5.6
100% Crop. F2.8 vs F5.6
It's soft when bigger than F4, but sharp enough after F5.6
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SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
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piticu
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piticu wrote:
The samples you posted look great, ReiLord! Especially the second pic i like alot! 44m-6 and 44m-5 are two lenses i miss from my Helios collection.
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ReiLord
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ReiLord wrote:
Thanks
Great flowers on the first pictures!
BTW: here's the link - http://foto.pszoniak.net/porady_foto/porady/m42.pdf - to the summary of most common manual lenses - it's in Polish but as i saw in the user list we have some Polish users here
The translation about Helios 44:
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Helios 44 58/2 – seria bardzo popularnych
obiektywów dostarczanych ze starszymi
Zenitami. Mają one pierścień przysłony
preselekcyjnej, co bardzo ułatwia
makrofotografię (przy użyciu pierścieni
pośrednich lub mieszka). Jest bardzo tani
i dość popularny. Wykonane nim zdjęcia
cechuje lekka dominanta o odcieniu słomkowym.
Otwarty można stosować jako
tanie „szkło” do portretu, przymknięty
zaś jest wygodny do makrofotografii. |
Helios 44 58/2 – very popular batch delivered with old zenits. It has the aperture pin what makes the macro easier (using the intermediate (i hope You know what i mean) rings or bellows. It's very cheap and popular. Photos made using this lens are a little bit straw-coloured/pale yellow. With aperture opened it can be used as a cheap portrait lens but closed is very comfortable in the macro photography.
The translation about MC Helios 44:
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MC Helios 44 58/2 – seria bardzo popularnych
obiektywów dostarczanych
z nowszymi Zenitami, oparta na konstrukcji
Biotara. Wersje od 4 do 7 różnią
się jakością wykonania powłok, jednakże
wszystkie podobnie źle działają pod
światło. Wersja siódma ma nieco większą
rozdzielczość. Heliosy 44 charakteryzują
się dość nieciekawym oddaniem szczegółów
przy otwarciu przysłony, sporym
winietowaniem i wysoką ostrością po
przymknięciu przysłony (także przy jej
maksymalnej wartości, co ma znaczenie
w makrofotografii). Są to najbardziej popularne
obiektywy w Polsce, dostępne
za grosze tak na aukcjach w Internecie,
jak i na giełdach, bazarach itp. Przy kupowaniu
trzeba uważać na spory rozrzut
jakości różniący poszczególne egzemlarze.
Otwarty można stosować jako tani
sprzęt do portretu, przymknięty jest dobry
do pejzażu itp. Helios 44-7 jest wciąż
produkowany. |
MC Helios 44 58/2 – very popular batch delivered with newer zenits. The construction of this Helios is based on Biotar. Versions 4-7 differs the multi coating quality although all of these work very badly directed to the sunlight. Version 7 reaches a bit higher quality/resolution. Helioses 44 are famous because of the dull details on the photos when the aperture is wide open, strong vignetting and high quality/resolution when the aperture is closed (even to the highest value what is important in the macro photography). This lens is very popular in Poland - available cheaply on internet auctions, markets, etc.. When buying this lens You have to be prepare for very high differences between particular exemplars. With aperture opened it can be used as a cheap portrait lens but closed is good for the landscapes. Helios 44-7 is still produced.
Sorry for the non-accurate English but usually i'm translating from English.
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MIR-1B 37/2,8 + TESSAR Carl Zeiss Jena 50/2.8 + MC Helios-44M-6 58mm + Sony 18-70mm + TAIR-11A 135mm + Jupiter-37A 135mm + Tair 3S 300mm + Soligor Teleconverter X2 + Pinhole "lens"
SIGMA EF-500 DG SUPER
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djmike
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
| ReiLord wrote: |
Thanks
Great flowers on the first pictures!
BTW: here's the link - http://foto.pszoniak.net/porady_foto/porady/m42.pdf - to the summary of most common manual lenses - it's in Polish but as i saw in the user list we have some Polish users here
The translation about Helios 44:
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Helios 44 58/2 – seria bardzo popularnych
obiektywów dostarczanych ze starszymi
Zenitami. Mają one pierścień przysłony
preselekcyjnej, co bardzo ułatwia
makrofotografię (przy użyciu pierścieni
pośrednich lub mieszka). Jest bardzo tani
i dość popularny. Wykonane nim zdjęcia
cechuje lekka dominanta o odcieniu słomkowym.
Otwarty można stosować jako
tanie „szkło” do portretu, przymknięty
zaś jest wygodny do makrofotografii. |
Helios 44 58/2 – very popular batch delivered with old zenits. It has the aperture pin what makes the macro easier (using the intermediate (i hope You know what i mean) rings or bellows. It's very cheap and popular. Photos made using this lens are a little bit straw-coloured/pale yellow. With aperture opened it can be used as a cheap portrait lens but closed is very comfortable in the macro photography.
The translation about MC Helios 44:
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MC Helios 44 58/2 – seria bardzo popularnych
obiektywów dostarczanych
z nowszymi Zenitami, oparta na konstrukcji
Biotara. Wersje od 4 do 7 różnią
się jakością wykonania powłok, jednakże
wszystkie podobnie źle działają pod
światło. Wersja siódma ma nieco większą
rozdzielczość. Heliosy 44 charakteryzują
się dość nieciekawym oddaniem szczegółów
przy otwarciu przysłony, sporym
winietowaniem i wysoką ostrością po
przymknięciu przysłony (także przy jej
maksymalnej wartości, co ma znaczenie
w makrofotografii). Są to najbardziej popularne
obiektywy w Polsce, dostępne
za grosze tak na aukcjach w Internecie,
jak i na giełdach, bazarach itp. Przy kupowaniu
trzeba uważać na spory rozrzut
jakości różniący poszczególne egzemlarze.
Otwarty można stosować jako tani
sprzęt do portretu, przymknięty jest dobry
do pejzażu itp. Helios 44-7 jest wciąż
produkowany. |
MC Helios 44 58/2 – very popular batch delivered with newer zenits. The construction of this Helios is based on Biotar. Versions 4-7 differs the multi coating quality although all of these work very badly directed to the sunlight. Version 7 reaches a bit higher quality/resolution. Helioses 44 are famous because of the dull details on the photos when the aperture is wide open, strong vignetting and high quality/resolution when the aperture is closed (even to the highest value what is important in the macro photography). This lens is very popular in Poland - available cheaply on internet auctions, markets, etc.. When buying this lens You have to be prepare for very high differences between particular exemplars. With aperture opened it can be used as a cheap portrait lens but closed is good for the landscapes. Helios 44-7 is still produced.
Sorry for the non-accurate English but usually i'm translating from English. |
ReiLord, thanks for sharing this good info.
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Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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ReiLord
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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ReiLord wrote:
You're welcome
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MIR-1B 37/2,8 + TESSAR Carl Zeiss Jena 50/2.8 + MC Helios-44M-6 58mm + Sony 18-70mm + TAIR-11A 135mm + Jupiter-37A 135mm + Tair 3S 300mm + Soligor Teleconverter X2 + Pinhole "lens"
SIGMA EF-500 DG SUPER
http://translax.eu/; http://www.m-j.translax.eu; http://www.m-j.translax.eu/forum; http://www.into-localization.com - localizacja, globalizacja, internationalizacja, DTP..... |
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MF-addicted
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MF-addicted wrote:
Great pictures - Now I see different images from the different helios types.
I love my Helios 44
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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karabud
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karabud wrote:
Wow this helios is a monster! 
My 44-4m mc is good too but aperture is broken...:/
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Banjo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: Re: MC Helios 44M-6 2/58mm - SAMPLES |
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Banjo wrote:
| ReiLord wrote: |
All photos made with Alfa A200 and MC Helios 44M-6 58 mm
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Thanks ReiLord & djmike for posting your samples: very nice indeed.
I recently acqired a copy of this lens and am still in the process of running a film past it in a Yashica TL Electro X
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