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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: Mamiya Sekor E 28/2.8 vs SMC Pentax 28/3.5 |
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caspert79 wrote:
Test at infinity. First an overview image:
VeldP8DSC00302 by devoscasper, on Flickr
The the 100% crops, center and far corner:
VeldComparison by devoscasper, on Flickr
Conclusion: center performance very good of both lenses at any tested aperture. At f/3.5, the corner sharpness is much better from the Pentax. At smaller apertures, the Pentax remains superior in this regard. Also CA's seem better corrected at all apertures. At f/11, the Pentax is really excellent up into the far corners. More tests are coming. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses!
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 895
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Nice test, thank you. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
What camera did you use, full frame I take it?
Also, what adapter did you use for the Mamiya?
Thanks for sharing. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
OK. Some more tests:
First, direct sunlight.
DirecteZonComparison by devoscasper, on Flickr
The Mamiya holds up better than I expected. The contrast loss seems to affect a larger circle of the image around the sun when compared to the Pentax, but still, not bad at all IMO.
Next picture with direct sunlight (just outside of frame). Aperture f/8.
DirectSunlight by devoscasper, on Flickr
Both lenses do good. When you look at the bricks on the right, the Pentax shows more contrast. Color temperature differs, but this can be corrected in PP.
Close focus test. Distance to subject 30cm. Aperture f/3.5. First Mamiya:
BloemM35DSC00313 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Then Pentax:
BloemP35DSC00312 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Both lenses show plenty of detail when focused close. Bokeh of the Mamiya looks less busy to me. +1 for Mamiya.
A bokeh test:
ComparisonBokeh by devoscasper, on Flickr
Bokeh looks quite pleasing to me from both lenses. Mamiya offers slightly more isolation because of wider aperture. Pentax image is more 'poppy': more color saturation, more contrast.
Last image @f/8 including crops:
ComparisonKanaal by devoscasper, on Flickr
The crops of the Pentax look better to me (less flat image, more contrast, more saturation).
Final conclusion:
- I think the Mamiya E 28/2.8 shows solid performance. In most circumstances however, I think the Pentax is the stonger lens. So it remains my favorite classic 28mm. The Mamiya however offers slightly better bokeh, is faster, and much lighter than the Pentax. Interesting detail: the Mamiya seems to be fully made of metal, so no plastics like other lenses of the E(F) series. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses!
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
What camera did you use, full frame I take it?
Also, what adapter did you use for the Mamiya?
Thanks for sharing. |
Camera: Sony A7RII. Mamiya adapter is Fotodiox Pro. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2537
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The Pentax is probably one of the most contrasty lenses. Even Leica shooters use it. (I have a PK to LM adapter that came with my first copy to prove that, sadly it had haze that blew out corners so I had to get another one.)
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cbass
Joined: 27 Jul 2019 Posts: 450
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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cbass wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
The Pentax is probably one of the most contrasty lenses. Even Leica shooters use it.
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Assuming you believe in such stuff the sample images I have seen from the Pentax are more in line with how Leica lenses render. |
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 152 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
Interesting comparison and more or less expected results for the Pentax lens, which is very usable even wide open. Still, I guess the biggest benefit is that flare resistance and (subjective matter, but still) nice colour rendering. Olympus 28mm F3.5 is even sharper, just can't compare in terms of flare resistance. I'm not sure any lens can, not within that budget. |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1275
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Thank you ,nice review , there's a 28mm 3.5 mamiya also, but not much info about it, did you ever used it before ? That's gotta be the k version of the Pentax I assume , one of the best vintage 28mm . Have you used a hood on these lenses for the test? Just curious how using it affect the final results |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I haven’t used the Mamiya 28/3.5. It’s only a 5 element lens though, whereas the 2.8 is 8 elements in 7 groups.
I used (non original) hoods, except in the direct sunlight test. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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