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Ernst Dinkla
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
My later SX 1.8/55mm (SN >200'000) clearly is the best of the bunch, including lenses such as the Sekor E 1.7/50mm and Sekor E 2/50mm.
The Sekor E 1.7/50mm is slightly better than the Sekor E 2/50mm, and about comparable to my early Sekor SX 1.8/55mm (which may be an
outlier or simply damaged even though there are no outer signs).
We have to be aware that going from 55mm to 50mm is quite a challenge for double gauss SLR (!) lenses. It's not by chance that the
Asahi Super Takumar 1.4/50mm is so much worse compared to the contemporary Minolta MC-II 1.4/58mm. You can find a lot of information
about these problems when reading the corresponding Nikkor Tales, written by some of the best Nikon lens designers.
In addition the later Sekor E and EF series clearly were in the low price segment. I remember well that in the early 1980s a set of Mamiya ZE
with 3.5/28mm, 1.7/50mm and 3.5/135mm was sold here in Switzerland for the same price as the Minolta X-300 body. And Minolta was the
cheapest of the three "big ones", of course.
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Thank you Stephan. Older magazine tests confirmed this more or less. No need to get the 50mm 1.7 then. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
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Arutemu
Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Posts: 72 Location: US/Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Arutemu wrote:
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. Some samples:
Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr
Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr
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mr_tibbs2004
Joined: 23 Jul 2021 Posts: 136 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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mr_tibbs2004 wrote:
The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy! |
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Arutemu
Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Posts: 72 Location: US/Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Arutemu wrote:
mr_tibbs2004 wrote: |
The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy! |
Well, the bokeh is busy because the background is. When it is not, the bokeh follows.
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.
I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Arutemu wrote: |
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. |
Pretty impressive - I wouldn't have expected that! Thanks for sharing images and information.
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 761 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Arutemu wrote: |
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. |
Pretty impressive - I wouldn't have expected that! Thanks for sharing images and information. |
I agree. That's interesting information. I see very little vignetting in the corners. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.
I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!
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I must have the same one
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
[quote="mr_tibbs2004"]
Arutemu wrote: |
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. Some samples:
Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr
The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy! |
Sure, although most of the background is also behind double pane glass I guess.
On vignetting on that larger sensor; the images are focused nearby, wonder what it does at infinity.
Not that the lens has a nice bokeh, in my book it is preferably used at tighter stops.
First images when I had the SX converted to EF mount.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4335836 _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
[quote="D1N0"]
blotafton wrote: |
Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.
I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!
I must have the same one |
Haha love it! |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2926 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Ernst Dinkla wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
My later SX 1.8/55mm (SN >200'000) clearly is the best of the bunch, including lenses such as the Sekor E 1.7/50mm and Sekor E 2/50mm.
The Sekor E 1.7/50mm is slightly better than the Sekor E 2/50mm, and about comparable to my early Sekor SX 1.8/55mm (which may be an
outlier or simply damaged even though there are no outer signs).
We have to be aware that going from 55mm to 50mm is quite a challenge for double gauss SLR (!) lenses. It's not by chance that the
Asahi Super Takumar 1.4/50mm is so much worse compared to the contemporary Minolta MC-II 1.4/58mm. You can find a lot of information
about these problems when reading the corresponding Nikkor Tales, written by some of the best Nikon lens designers.
In addition the later Sekor E and EF series clearly were in the low price segment. I remember well that in the early 1980s a set of Mamiya ZE
with 3.5/28mm, 1.7/50mm and 3.5/135mm was sold here in Switzerland for the same price as the Minolta X-300 body. And Minolta was the
cheapest of the three "big ones", of course.
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Thank you Stephan. Older magazine tests confirmed this more or less. No need to get the 50mm 1.7 then. |
I did some (very limited) tests with a bunch of standard lenses, including several Mamiya's (50 and 55mm). What I can say is that the center resolution of the E 50/1.7 and contrast are among the best, if not the best.
Didn't test corners, CA's etc. though. But as this lens is usually dirt cheap it doesn't hurt to give it a try. It has also pretty nice bokeh imo. However, I don’t like how the E series lenses handle direct light sources (bad coatings). They will never be my preferred lenses for landscapes for this reason.
Here are 2 wide open images:
https://flic.kr/p/2kiK7bz
https://www.flickr.com/gp/55691955@N05/90qi15 |
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