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Mamiya Sekor 55mm f1.8
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:

My later SX 1.8/55mm (SN >200'000) clearly is the best of the bunch, including lenses such as the Sekor E 1.7/50mm and Sekor E 2/50mm.
The Sekor E 1.7/50mm is slightly better than the Sekor E 2/50mm, and about comparable to my early Sekor SX 1.8/55mm (which may be an
outlier or simply damaged even though there are no outer signs).

We have to be aware that going from 55mm to 50mm is quite a challenge for double gauss SLR (!) lenses. It's not by chance that the
Asahi Super Takumar 1.4/50mm is so much worse compared to the contemporary Minolta MC-II 1.4/58mm. You can find a lot of information
about these problems when reading the corresponding Nikkor Tales, written by some of the best Nikon lens designers.

In addition the later Sekor E and EF series clearly were in the low price segment. I remember well that in the early 1980s a set of Mamiya ZE
with 3.5/28mm, 1.7/50mm and 3.5/135mm was sold here in Switzerland for the same price as the Minolta X-300 body. And Minolta was the
cheapest of the three "big ones", of course.

S


Thank you Stephan. Older magazine tests confirmed this more or less. No need to get the 50mm 1.7 then.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. Some samples:

Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr

Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr

Afternoon shadows by Artem, on Flickr


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arutemu wrote:
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. Some samples:

Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr

Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr

Afternoon shadows by Artem, on Flickr


The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy!


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_tibbs2004 wrote:


The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy!


Well, the bokeh is busy because the background is. When it is not, the bokeh follows.

Timothy by Artem, on Flickr


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.

I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!





PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arutemu wrote:
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well.


Pretty impressive - I wouldn't have expected that! Thanks for sharing images and information.

S


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:
Arutemu wrote:
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well.


Pretty impressive - I wouldn't have expected that! Thanks for sharing images and information.


I agree. That's interesting information. I see very little vignetting in the corners.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blotafton wrote:
Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.

I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!





I must have the same one
Flare Friday by The lens profile, on Flickr


PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mr_tibbs2004"]
Arutemu wrote:
BTW, Mamiya-Sekor 55mm/1.8 covers the Fuji GFX sensor really well. Some samples:

Summer pastimes by Artem, on Flickr

The bokeh in that first pic is out of control! I have that same lens and I don't recall the bokeh being that busy!


Sure, although most of the background is also behind double pane glass I guess.
On vignetting on that larger sensor; the images are focused nearby, wonder what it does at infinity.

Not that the lens has a nice bokeh, in my book it is preferably used at tighter stops.
First images when I had the SX converted to EF mount.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4335836


PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="D1N0"]
blotafton wrote:
Here are two shots with the SX on a a7.

I've only used it once to test it. This needs to change!





I must have the same one


Haha love it!


PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ernst Dinkla wrote:
stevemark wrote:

My later SX 1.8/55mm (SN >200'000) clearly is the best of the bunch, including lenses such as the Sekor E 1.7/50mm and Sekor E 2/50mm.
The Sekor E 1.7/50mm is slightly better than the Sekor E 2/50mm, and about comparable to my early Sekor SX 1.8/55mm (which may be an
outlier or simply damaged even though there are no outer signs).

We have to be aware that going from 55mm to 50mm is quite a challenge for double gauss SLR (!) lenses. It's not by chance that the
Asahi Super Takumar 1.4/50mm is so much worse compared to the contemporary Minolta MC-II 1.4/58mm. You can find a lot of information
about these problems when reading the corresponding Nikkor Tales, written by some of the best Nikon lens designers.

In addition the later Sekor E and EF series clearly were in the low price segment. I remember well that in the early 1980s a set of Mamiya ZE
with 3.5/28mm, 1.7/50mm and 3.5/135mm was sold here in Switzerland for the same price as the Minolta X-300 body. And Minolta was the
cheapest of the three "big ones", of course.

S


Thank you Stephan. Older magazine tests confirmed this more or less. No need to get the 50mm 1.7 then.


I did some (very limited) tests with a bunch of standard lenses, including several Mamiya's (50 and 55mm). What I can say is that the center resolution of the E 50/1.7 and contrast are among the best, if not the best.

Didn't test corners, CA's etc. though. But as this lens is usually dirt cheap it doesn't hurt to give it a try. It has also pretty nice bokeh imo. However, I don’t like how the E series lenses handle direct light sources (bad coatings). They will never be my preferred lenses for landscapes for this reason.

Here are 2 wide open images:

https://flic.kr/p/2kiK7bz

https://www.flickr.com/gp/55691955@N05/90qi15