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kds315*
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: Leitz Colorplan f2.5 90mm projection lens |
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kds315* wrote:
Here using the Leitz Colorplan f2.5 90mm (Leitz Germany version in full metal) on my Lumix:
(pics made in Spring 2015)
Full set is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157658050401373
Very flatfield, very sharp, excellent balanced high contrast colors, very creamy bokeh....
My friend Marco Cavina has an excellent article about this lens here:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Leitz_Colorplan_90_Germany_Portugal/00_pag.htm
(c) Marco Cavina
Be aware NOT to get the "CF" version for photography, as this is computed for a bent image field (glassless slides)!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
![Like Dog](images/smiles/like-dog.gif) _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Tervueren
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Tervueren wrote:
Beautiful Klaus, I actually looked at one of these at a garage sale just last week but didn't take it DOH !! |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Minolfan
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
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the frog is brilliant |
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kds315*
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:37 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
It has such a clean rendering, and so modern, that is is to me nearly a bit too sterile,
as I like the older, more "cinematic" look (like my Visonar's).
A fantastic lens to have, mine was just EUR30 or thereabouts in MINT-state. a sleeper!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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dan_
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
Very nice photos, indeed. I like the rendering even if, as you said, it's a little "sterile".
I think that at portrait distance it will show more "character" - the background will be a little more "busy" and the rendering not so clinically clean.
It was always on my list but I was hunting for the "Super" and couldn't find one for under 100 € (my price limit for it) yet.
Leica says about the "Super" :
"Advanced optical computation methods led to the SUPER-COLORPLAN-P2, whose optical performance surpasses even that of the renowned COLORPLAN-P2, to the point that its imaging quality is comparable to that of the APO lenses for our LEICA M and LEICA R cameras."
I'll probably be happy with a plain Colorplan, or a "P"/"P2", too.
Could you please tell me how much is the rear lens to sensor distance for Colorplan? It would be nice to be able to remount it in a 50mm/1.7 Minolta AF lens housing and have AF with it. |
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56 DIN
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
excellent pictures, you show with this lens
I used mine ducktaped onto the VNEX to focus _________________ Thomas
NEX & manual lenses
Nikon & manual lenses |
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AlexB
Joined: 22 Dec 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Russia, Moscow region
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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AlexB wrote:
Hello!
Is the Leitz Colorplan 90/2.5 cover full frame sensor?
Thinking about this lens on Sony a7rII. |
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dan_
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
AlexB wrote: |
Hello!
Is the Leitz Colorplan 90/2.5 cover full frame sensor?
Thinking about this lens on Sony a7rII. |
Yes, it does very well.
I've got one for my A7RII as well and did a quick test.. |
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Lightshow
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
This Letz lens looks good, very nice color, you may want to fix the typo in the title. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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AlexB
Joined: 22 Dec 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Russia, Moscow region
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:17 am Post subject: |
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AlexB wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
AlexB wrote: |
Hello!
Is the Leitz Colorplan 90/2.5 cover full frame sensor?
Thinking about this lens on Sony a7rII. |
Yes, it does very well.
I've got one for my A7RII as well and did a quick test.. |
Thank you! Do you know sizes of this lens? Diameter in mm? What helicoid do you use? |
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kds315*
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:11 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
This Letz lens looks good, very nice color, you may want to fix the typo in the title. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Done, thanks!
AlexB wrote: |
dan_ wrote: |
AlexB wrote: |
Hello!
Is the Leitz Colorplan 90/2.5 cover full frame sensor?
Thinking about this lens on Sony a7rII. |
Yes, it does very well.
I've got one for my A7RII as well and did a quick test.. |
Thank you! Do you know sizes of this lens? Diameter in mm? What helicoid do you use? |
my standard helicoid solution for that, showed it here on mflenses. 52.5mm _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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AlexB
Joined: 22 Dec 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Russia, Moscow region
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:21 am Post subject: |
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AlexB wrote:
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AlexB wrote: |
my standard helicoid solution for that, showed it here on mflenses. |
I'm sorry – where I can see your helicoid? What topic? |
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dan_
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:24 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
The diameter at the rear is 46mm.
Mine is only provisionally adapted yet, only for testing : 42->49 + 49->52 step up adapter rings fixed with electric tape at the rear of the lens and a 42 -> E-mount helicoid. |
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AlexB
Joined: 22 Dec 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Russia, Moscow region
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:33 am Post subject: |
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AlexB wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
The diameter at the rear is 46mm.
Mine is only provisionally adapted yet, only for testing : 42->49 + 49->52 step up adapter rings fixed with electric tape at the rear of the lens and a 42 -> E-mount helicoid. |
I do not understand, how 46mm cover FF sensor on a7r... Must be vignetting... |
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dan_
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
The diameter of the FF sensor is 43mm.
As I told you, it doesn't vignet at all.
After all it was intended for projecting 24x36mm slides. It is not a movie projector lens. |
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AlexB
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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AlexB wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
The diameter of the FF sensor is 43mm.
As I told you, it doesn't vignet at all.
After all it was intended for projecting 24x36mm slides. It is not a movie projector lens. |
Thank you, it is clear now. ![Like 1 small](images/smiles/like-1s.gif) |
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leemik
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leemik wrote:
I bought a couple of broken Leitz Pradovit slide projectors for cheap and found that they had 2 different era 90/2.5 Colorplans inside.. so I pulled them out and compared them both physically first...
The older all silver, all metal one is taller than the later silver and black plastic top one.. going one step further, I open up the lenses and see that their construction is very different inside as well. The all metal one almost perfectly matches the diagram by Marco Cavina.. 5 elements, 4 groups. The black plastic top one however is much different. It appears to be 6 elements and 4 groups. I made a quickie diagram using the Marco Cavina diagram for comparison:
I'm no lens expert but this is what I see to the best of my knowledge after opening up. I actually had a little trouble putting the plastic top one back together because i was trying to follow the Marco Cavina diagram and the elements just didn't match up at all.
As for picture quality comparison.. I didn't do anything scientific but I did go out and shoot with both lenses for a day and the all metal one appears to be a little sharper than the black plastic top one. I don't know if anyone else has found the same thing.
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rockycarter wrote:
wow great photos i like the colors. very well done. i would like to try this on coins. just wondering has anybody ever tried taking photos of coins with this lens. i would like to see the results. it does a great job with flowers. _________________ Rockycarter |
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cyberjunkie
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cyberjunkie wrote:
I have a Leitz projection lens, sold loooong time ago to me as a Colorplan, that is quite similar to the all metal one in the pics above, but has a flat tube (no scalloped ring in the middle) and NO engraving/lettering at all.
It has the classic Leitz plastic cap of all Colorplan's though.
Did you have ever seen an un-marked Colorplan?
I don't remember if it was sold to me as a normal Colorplan or as a curved field one. I remember that i had an aluminium adapter made, to fit it on a Rollei P11 dual-format projector (long gone... great machine with a couple of weak spots).
cheers
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Other cameras: Leica CL, Leica M5, Rolleiflex, Mamiya Super 23, Horizont, and many bellows cameras from 4x5" to 8x10"
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Eriksen wrote:
Would you say that this lens is a better choice than the Pentacon 2.8/80mm? |
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kiddo wrote:
leemik wrote: |
I bought a couple of broken Leitz Pradovit slide projectors for cheap and found that they had 2 different era 90/2.5 Colorplans inside.. so I pulled them out and compared them both physically first...
The older all silver, all metal one is taller than the later silver and black plastic top one.. going one step further, I open up the lenses and see that their construction is very different inside as well. The all metal one almost perfectly matches the diagram by Marco Cavina.. 5 elements, 4 groups. The black plastic top one however is much different. It appears to be 6 elements and 4 groups. I made a quickie diagram using the Marco Cavina diagram for comparison:
I'm no lens expert but this is what I see to the best of my knowledge after opening up. I actually had a little trouble putting the plastic top one back together because i was trying to follow the Marco Cavina diagram and the elements just didn't match up at all.
As for picture quality comparison.. I didn't do anything scientific but I did go out and shoot with both lenses for a day and the all metal one appears to be a little sharper than the black plastic top one. I don't know if anyone else has found the same thing.
--mike |
Very useful old post, can anyone confirm if the 6 element version is the same as the Super one (supposedly apo?)
I have the full metall version, but the Super it might be interesting to get also (not easy to find though) |
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kiddo wrote:
Besides I've found a plain P2 (no super) version, would it be the same as the Super? Anyway , it looks like there are at least 5 versions of the colorplan |
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kds315*
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:45 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
Besides I've found a plain P2 (no super) version, would it be the same as the Super? Anyway , it looks like there are at least 5 versions of the colorplan |
The "P" versions are the PROFESSIONAL series projection lenses; I have a few (packed away); even flatter field they have I remember...
Here some results using the Leitz Super-Colorplan P2 f2.5 90mm:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157668904112563 _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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