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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16576 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Gosh, I get really tired with this thread: Go get a Trioplan if you want those bubbles and don't be so cheap!
Basically that whole thread boils down to just one point: "how can I have it if I can't afford it"
I'm out... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Snowcat
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 110
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Snowcat wrote:
Yes, it's about "how can I have it if I can't afford it", but I can't see why it is wrong... Personally I already have trioplan 100 and I am posting here to help other people make their decisions. Including those that are on a strict budget. That alone doesn't make them worse...
Well, at least this is how I see it. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
This whole forum is about having lenses cheaply vs. modern expensive lenses.... for the most part. I freely admit I cannot pay the large dollars for the big Trioplan. However, my dilemma and struggle is in realizing that I have spent in total much more money on cheaper lenses than would cost fewer very desirable ones. I suppose it is psychological. Nevertheless, it is good to know how other lenses compare.
I have hit the magical bubbles a few times and I continue to study the circumstances needed. We have seen where big Trioplan can also fail to provide the desirable bubbles - Klaus' images from it also largely miss the target. I am coming to the conclusion that smaller - maybe more dim - specular highlights seem to produce them better than very bright and large highlights. I find this true when photographing the smaller twinkles reflected from water. Here are two examples where water provided... first is 50mm Trioplan and second is Domiplan...
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I guess what is magical and desirable to some is simply boring, uninspired, banal and unoriginal to others.
Bubbles are one thing, but a picture that has bubbles but also works artistically, is interesting and has some merit is entirely another.
I agree with Klaus, this thread has become tiresome.
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Gosh, I get really tired with this thread: Go get a Trioplan if you want those bubbles and don't be so cheap!
Basically that whole thread boils down to just one point: "how can I have it if I can't afford it" Twisted Evil |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Please don't feel compelled to follow it... or comment. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Snowcat
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 110
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Snowcat wrote:
Well, there will always be newcomers (like me, hehe ), whoa are interested in the topic. I admit, circles only images are not my goal at all. I am aiming to shoot some beautiful flowers with that kind bokeh, it looks gorgeous. But to create good images like that one needs to know HOW to do it. And as right now all I have in my possession is dirty snow under dull gray sky, I am accumulating the theory. And I am deeply grateful for everyone who gave me some bits of knowledge which I will test as soon as the spring springs out |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:15 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
While I have not had good sunlight or the time to properly test my new Primotar and Telemegor 150&180 lenses. It seems the 150mm may have the most potential for the bubbles, although none are showing them like Trioplan. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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vroger
Joined: 23 Jul 2014 Posts: 623 Location: MN
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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vroger wrote:
This was posted by someone on a thread I started at FM.
Source http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1308057/1
Jupitier-3 ?
And some the same thread.
olympus pen f 38/1.8
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
vroger: Your FM post was more open to effects than here, but still good. When a topic like this starts, it seems to naturally attract many interpretations and morph into more than the desired target effect. The Diaplan picture in your thread hits the mark perfectly. I hope I can achieve those results with my newly acquired Diaplan. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I just seen this in the MD 35-70/3.5 thread, I didn't think this lens capable of this type of highlight bokeh.
http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-md-35-70-3-5-macro-a-real-compact-gem-for-my-nex-t50391,start,45.html#1424883
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:59 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
This is one of my first from test shot with MOG Telemegor 5.5/150. I will have better opportunities tomorrow...
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:15 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Yep, Telemegor 5.5/150 showing some potential. Now to get it to happen in a serious picture.
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Woodrim |
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sceptic
Joined: 01 Jun 2013 Posts: 255
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:43 am Post subject: |
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sceptic wrote:
Jupiter-8M (Kiev mount) mounted in reverse:
Softest lens yet (Jupiter-8M) by scepticswe, on Flickr
Not the best example (very few OOF highlights), but definitely some bright outlines on the "bubbles". _________________ Sony A7R and wildly varying flora of lenses |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3692 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I find it quite stunning, good classic Pentacon 1.8/50mm + extension tube (i hope FB link works):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=934850286548272&set=gm.952418091449560&type=1&theater _________________ ---------------------------------
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4058 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:41 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Yes, the Oreston and Primoplan both provide wonderful bokeh. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Wow that's the very same guy I've sold my Orestor to _________________ Angry young man !
Flickr | Juzaphoto | Ebay sales
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Raxar
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 222
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Raxar wrote:
Ennagon 85/2.8 projector
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Raxar
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 222
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Raxar wrote:
someone mentioned smc 50/1.4 can produced similar kinda bokeh so i try some of 50/1.4 lens and the nikon pre-ai sc shows some potential:
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Steinheil Culminar 13,5cm is pretty close
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16576 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Very nice Lars!!
Steinheil Culminar 2.8/50mm
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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aeropic
Joined: 24 Jul 2015 Posts: 34
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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aeropic wrote:
It is well known that diaplans do the job...
The 1.8 80 meyer optik are quite easy to find for cheap... Just search for "filius dia projektor" they come with a geniune Meyer-optiks Gorlitz diaplan.
I got mine for 24€ (shipping included) which is quite a good price.
Adapting it was also rather easy:
and the results are promizing !
a bit noizy @1600 iso ...
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- rolleinar 35 2.8, 105 2.8
- Chinon 50 1.7
- yashica 135 2.8
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whanna
Joined: 01 Apr 2016 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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whanna wrote:
Hi,
I find this thread interesting and useful. I have a Trioplan 50/2,9 and I have just tried it with a 12 mm and 32 mm extension tube. The result was not what I wanted exactly, but surprisingly good. |
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marino24
Joined: 11 Feb 2016 Posts: 84 Location: italy
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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marino24 wrote:
this one is the Jupiter 8 50/2
#1
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
whanna wrote: |
Hi,
I find this thread interesting and useful. I have a Trioplan 50/2,9 and I have just tried it with a 12 mm and 32 mm extension tube. The result was not what I wanted exactly, but surprisingly good. |
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macheck
Joined: 30 Oct 2013 Posts: 131 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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macheck wrote:
Hello whanna
Really nice results, a kind of transition to bubbles and a very prominent effect.
macheck _________________ my flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129563138@N03/sets |
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