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Himself
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:04 pm Post subject: LED RGB - micro vision |
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Himself wrote:
It looks 3D to me eyes: red looks to be set deeper than green and blue. Could be an illusion?
Magnification around 22ish X
Here it is
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RokkorDoctor
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
Are you by any chance wearing spectacles for far-sightedness or reading glasses?
I am wearing a strong prescription pair of spectacles for near-sightedness (L -6 diopters / R -5 diopters), and they are high index lenses with a high level of chromatic aberration. With those on for me the red actually seems to step forwards, and the blue is set further back. Very noticeable when I turn my head a bit whilst looking at the screen.
EDIT: when I take those spectacles off, the image seems flat. _________________ Mark
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Himself
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
I do wear spectacles for distance ( -4 ) but for reading I'd taking them off.
I can stay in front of my computer with them on or off.
Still a tiny bit 3D with them off and more pronounced with them on. _________________ Moderator Himself
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visualopsins
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Optical illusion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromostereopsis _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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RokkorDoctor
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
Interesting;
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The effect can appear much more pronounced when suitable images are viewed while wearing eyeglasses needed to correct myopia, with the effect almost completely disappearing when the glasses are removed. |
That is exactly what I experience! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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Himself
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Very interesting!
According to that, I experience negative chromostereopsis. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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e6filmuser
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e6filmuser wrote:
I wear varifocals and the green seems closer at reading distance focus and the blue is closer at further distance focus. The red stays about the same. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: LED RGB - micro vision |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
Himself wrote: |
It looks 3D to me eyes: red looks to be set deeper than green and blue. Could be an illusion?
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I have 0,0 diopters on both eyes, and I don´t see any color protruding above the others. But I see a 3D effect within the structure of the LEDs itself. Thank you for sharing this. I´ve never seen working LED that close. _________________ Cheers, Gerhard |
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Himself
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: LED RGB - micro vision |
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Himself wrote:
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
Himself wrote: |
It looks 3D to me eyes: red looks to be set deeper than green and blue. Could be an illusion?
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I´ve never seen working LED that close. |
Never seen them either. It was a surprise for me to see that pattern. I photographed them before but never at that magnification.
I might be the first one to do that ( except the lab people).
I looked for something similar in Alamy, Getty, Shutterstock, Google images, Istock, and all I found was the pattern seen at around 2-3 X magnification. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
That's actually the rgb filter layer -- like the colors were squirted from nozzles.
Explanation from some seeing depth reversed from others is illustrated thus:
Photo by Peter Robert's https://www.flickr.com/photos/159559975@N08/30178006127/
Notice the blue pattern can appear above or below the red towers -- like the common corner illusion that reverses...
http://www.anopticalillusion.com/2012/04/corner-house-by-istvan-orosz/
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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