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Konica Hexanon 57mm f/1.4 WOW!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject: Konica Hexanon 57mm f/1.4 WOW!! Reply with quote

I had never thought about trying this lens, until I came upon one more or less by accident. It is quite simply remarkable, I think that I like it more than the 50mm f/1.4. More thoughts on this lens here http://fourbillionyears.org/timeless-beauty-the-konica-hexanon-57mm-f-1-4/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Konica Hexanon 57mm f/1.4 WOW!! Reply with quote

fourbillionyears wrote:
I had never thought about trying this lens, until I came upon one more or less by accident. It is quite simply remarkable, I think that I like it more than the 50mm f/1.4. More thoughts on this lens here http://fourbillionyears.org/timeless-beauty-the-konica-hexanon-57mm-f-1-4/

Absolutely great photos, I especially like the one of the cat.
The 57/1.4 is the first Hexanon I ever used. It came as standard on the T2 I got myself back in 1978. Mine was earlier that your two black ones, though. It had an aluminum ring with the DOF scale and the earlier, amber colored coatings. The later, dark blue/violet coatings (CDC) were introduced in 1967-68, so yours have the later ones. Perhaps one with the earlier coatings would make for an interesting comparison?
See the page on lens versions on my site (I am thinking of the A-type and, especially, the B type): https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/3-hexanon-ar-lenses/-lens-types


PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps one with the earlier coatings would make for an interesting comparison?

A and B types should have the same (amber) coating? Is there any optical difference between them, and with the later CDC-coated lens?
Also, I know that you regard the f/1.2 very highly - do you have a feeling for how it compares to the 57 f/1.4 ? If one does not need the extra half stop (thank you Sony Very Happy ), are there any differences that justify the several hundred dollars that the faster lens costs? Sharpness, bokeh, color, contrast of the f/1.4 are pretty impressive! This was a kit lens in the 1960's ... sic transit gloria mundi.

And Thank You Dog for the kind words!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourbillionyears wrote:
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Perhaps one with the earlier coatings would make for an interesting comparison?

A and B types should have the same (amber) coating? Is there any optical difference between them, and with the later CDC-coated lens?
Also, I know that you regard the f/1.2 very highly - do you have a feeling for how it compares to the 57 f/1.4 ? If one does not need the extra half stop (thank you Sony Very Happy ), are there any differences that justify the several hundred dollars that the faster lens costs? Sharpness, bokeh, color, contrast of the f/1.4 are pretty impressive! This was a kit lens in the 1960's ... sic transit gloria mundi.

And Thank You Dog for the kind words!


It’s hard to speak authoritatively about coatings on Hexanons, as no hard info is available. But to all appearances, the A-type and B-type Hexanons did share the same amber/straw color coatings. These coatings existed for only 3-4 years before the CDC ones came along and some slight modifications may or may not have been introduced during that period. If you scroll down on the page I mentioned yesterday, you will see a detailed description of Hexanon lens types and versions, and of the two distinct B-type production runs. The earlier ones have the older coatings and the later ones have the CDC coatings. I am not aware of any optical differences between the various versions of the 57/1.4 besides the coatings. The construction is the same.

As to the 57/1.2, it does have its distinct personality, like the 57/1.4. It has very good contrast and amazing sharpness for a lens this fast, even at 1.2. My friend Christophe has written the most impressive elegy about this lens I have ever seen:

“Voila la plus étonnante optique ultra lumineuse que j'ai pu connaitre, à la personnalité marquée, au piqué stupéfiant de PO à f:16 tout en restant fine et douce, au bokeh rutilant spectaculaire à PO et doux en dessous, qui sera merveilleuse en toutes circonstances, sublime pour les portraits. Quand on pense que le capteur des Olympus est microscopique et que nous sommes loin, vu le diamètre du verre, du "télécentrique" (argument marketing) dont se vante Olympus , on ne peut qu'être admiratif devant le travail de Konica, à une époque où les moyens n'étaient pas ceux de nos jours... Aucune de mes optiques Olympus ne lui arrive à la cheville.
On notera le rendu très doux et lissé de la peau, un véritable appétit pour les couleurs, une tenue aux ombres et aux nuances de hautes lumières qui console sur mon capteur Olympus des "cramés bouchés" des Zuiko et cette infime diffusion (vibrante et très fine) sur les transitions brutales (voir le crop AC) qui en fait une optique très différente de l'hexanon 50 f:1:1.7.”
Source : http://www.street-photo.fr/fr/tests-et-comparatifs/7/5

One of the reasons I like it is for is the razor thin DOF. I once uploaded a photo I took of my son: http://forum.mflenses.com/konica-hexanon-ar-1-2-57-on-the-way-t72517.html. I didn’t quite nail the focus on the eyelashes, as I had intended, but the thin DOF is perfectly visible, as is the sharpness and the bokeh, which I find quite pleasing.

@ “Sic transit….”
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A strong endorsement indeed and backed up with images. The bokeh does remind me of the 57/1.4, which may be a result of the same person (team?) designing both lenses more or less at the same time. Christophe is certainly right that this lens is very different from the 50/1.7, that is the same feeling that I immediately got when comparing the 57/1.4 with the 50/1.4.
I may start hunting for a 1.2 after all...


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1 and 2 my faves.
All the best,
Sandro


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