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Nesster
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: Konica Auto S2 |
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Nesster wrote:
This one was sitting all alone, with nobody bidding, on a recent evening. When it came I was amazed at the good shape everything seemed to be in... until I tried the film advance and shutter - neither moved or did anything at all! I created bad ebay karma by thinking bad thoughts about the seller, I mean, "don't know if it works" to me would include simple stuff like does the film advance move?
Anyway, the following morning I found out the camera locks up in the Auto position of the aperture dial - if there is not electricity. So, a quick flip of the ring and I'm in business. Later I buy the right battery - though checking vs. a Gossen, I'm setting the camera at ASA 100 for ASA 400 film. (Does saying ASA date me?) It looks like it needs new foam, but there aren't any light leaks as I use it with the very high quality never ready case bottom. I promptly tried to correct my ebay karma by admitting to the seller I'd had bad thoughts, but now was extremely happy (probably happier than they, as the camera went for minimum bid)
So how's it compare with... say a C35 or an Electro GSN? Glad you asked
Obviously larger than the C35, but nearly identical in size to the Yashica
My initial impression is that the two are very competitive when it comes to operation - they both have smooth ratcheting frame advances, though the Konica's throw is shorter... both have excellent view finders and focus patches, parallax correction, both feel good in hand. The S2, in addition to parallax, corrects for field size - the frame in the vf actually expands and contracts as you focus in and out. The GSN only moves the frame lines for parallax, not adjusting for field size.
However: the S2 has a manual mode and the GSN does not. The GSN is aperture priority (which I'm more used to) while the S2 has shutter priority. The S2 shows metered aperture in the view finder - GSN has no indicators in the vf. The S2 locks up in auto mode if either under or over exposure is going to happen, or the battery is dead or missing. GSN as far as I can recall doesn't lock up, but without battery you have 1/500 only.
The metering on both is good - though both have battery 'problems' to solve these days. Though the S2 cell is in the lens, thus it reads through whatever filter you throw on, while with the GSN you have to adjust ASA to account for filter factors.
The Yash has a shutter lock; the same effect is to be had with the Konica by putting the camera in auto and a lens cap on the lens. Oh, the Konica has a built in hood. In general, and especially with the hood extended, I can see the lens more in the Konica finder than with the Yashica. The GSN has a hot shoe, the S2 does not. (The GSN is excellent for flash shooting with a thyristor flash, perhaps the S2 might be as well) For what it's worth, the leather case for the Konica is miles, miles classier than the faux textured cheap feeling one for the Yashica.
So, sample pix? First roll, Ferrania 400. (Have a roll of Neopan 400 ready to develop today)
duo, dynamic, early morning by Nesster, on Flickr
the photographer as ventilation fan by Nesster, on Flickr
OK performance vs. the sun
56860018 by Nesster, on Flickr
shade by Nesster, on Flickr
(CVS scans, with some levels done) (Camera shots with a SMC Takumar 35mm f/3.5 on a K100D)
Then, there's a few vintage ads:
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Konica Auto-S2 1965 by Nesster, on Flickr
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Konica auto S-2 1966 by Nesster, on Flickr
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1973 - Konica Auto-S2 rangefinder by Nesster, on Flickr _________________ -Jussi
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Looks like you got a good 'un, Jussi. _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Like these shots, are these store scans? Agree, ya got a shooter! |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Thanks, I'm really positively surprised with this camera. CVS scans.
56860011 PULL by Nesster, on Flickr _________________ -Jussi
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
all great! _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
+1 Shocking good!! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
You Konica guys are pissing me off! Oh, I guess I'm a Konica guy, too. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
You Konica guys are pissing me off! Oh, I guess I'm a Konica guy, too. |
My weakest Hexanon i.e. 28mm f3.5 gave VG results on Fuji superia 200 asa:-
Supermarket dev and scan to CD no touch up in Photoshop just reduced to 800pix:-
Crop no touching up in Photoshop:-
Photoshop fiddle to convert crop to a digital squeaky clean look:-
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
it's such a beauty, but only now that I have one in my hand I see just how beautiful it really is
even love it's case
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
There ya go, isn't it a nice camera... does not get nearly the fame it deserves. _________________ -Jussi
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Congrats Andreas! I look forward your shoots! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
There ya go, isn't it a nice camera... does not get nearly the fame it deserves. |
yes Nesster, I just love it!
curious that mine does not have the built in lens hood, curious because otherwise the camera is minty and doubt that it broke off, or does it come off easily?
Attila wrote: |
Congrats Andreas! I look forward your shoots! |
hm..I hope very much I can show some Attila, but..
it is embarrassing, I have quite a few film cameras by now but only have shot one roll film so far, in these last few years. I can't carry all my camera on my long travels, my dSLR is with me then, and when in Austria I am quite busy. I plan to shoot a roll or two while soon, daily, going to and coming back from my work at a Christmas market in Vienna. For it's small size I may choose the Auto S3 ( mine is the Japanese model called C35 fd ) which I have since a while, and it was you and photos you had shown taken with your C35 that made me get this camera recently too, mine is called 'flashmatic', I think it is 'automatic' outside Japan.
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Bring one of them to your travels and shoot B&W film too or slides sometimes. Great fun and in selected cases still better than digital in my opinion. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Bring one of them to your travels and shoot B&W film too or slides sometimes. Great fun and in selected cases still better than digital in my opinion. |
yes, I am planning to.
not sure if it will be a Pentax ME Super, so I can use my Pentax / Takumar lenses, or the Konica Auto S3, more likely both _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Bring one of them to your travels and shoot B&W film too or slides sometimes. Great fun and in selected cases still better than digital in my opinion. |
yes, I am planning to.
not sure if it will be a Pentax ME Super, so I can use my Pentax / Takumar lenses, or the Konica Auto S3, more likely both |
Konica produce better images than any SLR with any lens at least this was my experience. So little and light weight. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Nesster
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
yes Nesster, I just love it!
curious that mine does not have the built in lens hood, curious because otherwise the camera is minty and doubt that it broke off, or does it come off easily?
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From the pic it looks like your has the hood - just pull it out. It may be stuck for some reason, but it sure looks present _________________ -Jussi
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
kuuan wrote: |
yes Nesster, I just love it!
curious that mine does not have the built in lens hood, curious because otherwise the camera is minty and doubt that it broke off, or does it come off easily?
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From the pic it looks like your has the hood - just pull it out. It may be stuck for some reason, but it sure looks present |
Jussi from your pics I can see that the black front of the lens barrel, with the hood, has a bigger diameter than the rest of the lens in silver. It is the opposite on my camera, and the black front also does not say 'Konica Japan' as on your's. I am afraid the hood really is missing.. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Hi Kuuan.
It's should seems an obvious thing, but have you turned the black cylinder towards both sides? Sticky shade?
I guess that that cylinder can be the shade.
Did anybody try the 1,6 version? _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Hi Rino,
no, I am sure the hood simply is not there.
if you look at the cameras from the top, at the lens barrels of Jussi's and my camera, at the front black part, you will notice that on Jussi's the diameter of the black, front part is bigger than the diameter of the 'lower' silver part of the barrel. On my camera the diameter of the front, black part of the lens barrel is smaller than the diameter of the silver part. The added lens hood makes the diameter of the front, black part on Jussi's camera bigger.
On mine it simply isn't there.. It came with a well fitting lens cap with a 'Konica' lettering in exactly the same style as on the camera itself, a lens cap that very much looks like it must be the original one. Therefore I believe, that in case the cap on Jussi's camera fits around the lens hood and not on the lens barrel itself, as on mine, my camera originally came without a built in hood. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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jazzwave
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:23 am Post subject: |
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jazzwave wrote:
I love this camera, Hexanon lens make this RF bettter.
Still looking Konica Auto S3 (black).. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
jazzwave wrote: |
I love this camera, Hexanon lens make this RF bettter.
Still looking Konica Auto S3 (black).. |
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
I have the older version...the Konica S. It has the selenium meter rather than the Cds. Seeing these I must get out and shoot more with it.
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barnaby
Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 59 Location: Hampshire UK
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barnaby wrote:
That's nice Big Dawg and in good condition.
Here's mine, that came to me as non-working and very tatty. I spent a lot of time fixing her up and I am very pleased with her now. Its one of the most prized cameras I own now. I might not of done all this work if it hadn't come with the mint condition Sun attachments though.
Work done:
1) Rewire from battery compartment - to cds light cell and the + side from battery to meter.
2) Rangefinder mirror had become detached so needed re-fixing then recalibrated.
3) Aperture blades stuck and had to be freed.
4) New lightseals
5) New black goat skin body covers.
6) Completely cleaning inside and out as I went.
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hey , congrats for your restoration! Great product shoot ! I look forward your results in Galleries! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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dragom wrote:
You guys will be responsible for making me spend more money... |
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