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Komura Koki Tokyo 135mm f:2.8
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Komura Koki Tokyo 135mm f:2.8 Reply with quote
I have a m42 Komura lens with a short serial No. 5113

This must be pretty old?



I count 20 blades Wink


PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two?


PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.

B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.

I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc.


PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
woodrim wrote:
Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two?


I have a Komura 105mm f/2. The 135mm f/2.8 is a completely different lens, but I see some similarities in how the glass "renders" the pictures. Wink

luisalegria wrote:
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.

B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.

I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc.


Interesting theory and conclusion, thx! Wink

Difficult to answer this, but what can a decent price tag be on a lens like this?

Last edited by Nordentro on Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:54 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is still going to be a pretty cheap lens, even with a Komura name and the rarity factor - this is absolutely the earliest Komura I have seen, and the first of this type I have seen sold under its makers name.

The Soligors, etc. of this make regularly sell for @$20

If you advertise it well, maybe $30-40


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.

B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.

I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc.


I don't think this disproves your theory. I think two different manufactorers made similiar lenses.

http://forum.mflenses.com/fujita-the-forgotten-maker-t22482,highlight,juplen.html


This a link to your old thread. I think everyone but one is Fujita made.
The Soligor with the the writing around the rim on the rear row right corner, I believe is Komura made.
If I'm right the serial number dosen't start with the letter Y.
If it does I'm wrong. Laughing


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
20 blades, wow!


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other 135/2.8 in that lineup (Peerotar) is precisely the same construction as the Soligor. They are identical internally, I have opened both side-by side. I even switched parts from one to the other - the Peerotar was M42 and the Soligor Exakta, I switched mounts. They fit perfectly.

So the maker must be the same.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
i love this lens!!


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
woodrim wrote:
Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two?


I have a Komura 105mm f/2. The 135mm f/2.8 is a completely different lens, but I see some similarities in how the glass "renders" the pictures. Wink


I had momentarily confused you with Luis, who has the f/3.5 version. I have both and prefer the f/2.8.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
The other 135/2.8 in that lineup (Peerotar) is precisely the same construction as the Soligor. They are identical internally, I have opened both side-by side. I even switched parts from one to the other - the Peerotar was M42 and the Soligor Exakta, I switched mounts. They fit perfectly.

So the maker must be the same.


Yes, it looks like my Komura is exactly the same as your Soligor
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