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luisalegria
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 Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: Japanese Monster Zooms ! |
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luisalegria wrote:
They were Huge ! (Bash !)
They were Heavy ! (Crunch !)
They were Popular ! (Roar !)
They are from Forty years Ago ! (Screech !)
Er, no not that Japanese monster -
These monsters -
The Vivitar(Tokina) 75-260/4.5, Sun Optics 80-240/4, and the mighty Tamron 80-250/3.8
These are all early 2-touch automatic zooms from 1969-1973, all with interchangable mounts. At one time they were surprisingly popular, and represented the top of their respective lines. All are very easy to find today.
Tamron 80-250/3.8 Adapt-a-matic (PZ-20Au)
This is actually one of the most common Adapt-a-matic lenses seen on Ebay, there always seems to be one on sale. I wonder why ?
It is a huge and unwieldy thing, a true Gojira of consumer zooms !
Sun-Zoom Macro 80-240/4 YS-mount
There is almost always one or more of these on ebay. Unlike some other Sun products, this was I think only sold under the Sun brand. Its a YS-interchangable mount, which was promoted by a consortium of Sigma, Sun, and other minor companies. It has an early macro-mode feature, with a switch that converts the zoom ring into a macro-focus moving internal elements apparently. But the most recognizable feature is the very odd tripod-mount screw.
Vivitar (Tokina) 75-260/4.5 T4 mount
This was sold by both Soligor and Vivitar, both in T4 only I think. This is extremely common, there are always several on ebay.
I will be conducting a head-to-head battle among these old monsters. With luck there will be no damage to the local infrastructure, but the authorities will be informed.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I expect good quality.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Sometimes, I love to shoot with these monsters!
The Tamron 60-300 is another one...
Or my favourite monster, the Soligor 70-220...
And I used to have this one: a Danubia 85-205...
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Xpres
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
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Sometimes, I love to shoot with these monsters!
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Me too! 
I have the 60-300 and 80-250, but my favourite 'monster' is the Tamron 200-500 SP which is truly monstrous and a bugger to use. IQ is prety good though.
Look forward to seeing your results.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Do you have an 200-500 ? Can you give me 10 hi-res samples and one from lens itself ? This lens is still missing from my Tamron gallery.
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Xpres
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
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| Do you have an 200-500 ? Can you give me 10 hi-res samples and one from lens itself ? This lens is still missing from my Tamron gallery. |
Sure thing Attila... give me a couple of days though.
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Nesster wrote:
I almost got one of those Tamron monsters today, but the screw mount wasn't working and looked VERY tentative on such a big lens. The mechanism for the pin wasn't engaging. I suppose I should have paid my $20 for it though...
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| Do you have an 200-500 ? Can you give me 10 hi-res samples and one from lens itself ? This lens is still missing from my Tamron gallery. |
Sure thing Attila... give me a couple of days though. |
Many thanks in advance!
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koji wrote:
I have one too, though I have never used it. Not really a monster thou.
KOMURA ZOOM TL925 90-250/4.5
It has an interchangeable mount, mine is Minolta-SR mount,
according to some sample shots on the internet this is not
a bad lens. It is all metal construction and the length does not
change while zooming, but extends when you focus to near object.
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I've been looking for that Komura !
They aren't common.
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DSG
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Their not monsters!... |
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DSG wrote:
They are all just tiddlers next to my Russian MTO 1000A 1100mm f10.5:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8108/sd14mtopg1.jpg |
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Well, true !
But the idea was that, like Godzilla movies, these old monsters were popular, and consequently these days still quite common.
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soikka
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soikka wrote:
My ~200mm telezooms in size order.
None of them really a monster, Tamron leading with 1359g and 178mm+hood.
DA50-200/4-5.6, M75-150/4, A70-210/4, Tamron SP 80-200/2.8
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