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Industar-50 3.5/50mm
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Industar-50 3.5/50mm Reply with quote

Hello,
I received this M39 lens and gave it a try on the 5D MkII, even if weather was grey.


It's a little and light lens with a stopless diaph. It's easy to use.
Aperture from f:3.5 to 16.
Min focusing distance : 0,65m
Filter diameter : 33mm
Weight : 65 gr
Diaph : 7 blades
Here are these samples. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they look pretty good to me. If you have extension tubes or bellows, try how it works for close-ups. I have one knocking about somewhere which I used on a bellows on my K10D and was well impressed by the results. Especially when you think how cheaply these little chaps sell for.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely Stephen.
I'll try with extension tubes and bellows. In fact, I got it for that. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When stopped down this lens is very sharp but lacking all of the character that it has wide open.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for your link, JJ.
It's really impressive and I await the good light to come again so that I could give it a better trial. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a great lens, a bit of a fiddle to use but I've got big clumsy fingers. I really should use mine a bit more, jjphoto's pictures have inspired me. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an odd lens, but I think very interesting. And it only costs a few dollars!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations Olivier! This lens is a miniature marvel. I had one on my first ever SLR, a Zenit 3M. Imagine how my heart sank when I exchanged the camera for a Praktica with a Domiplan and discovered the difference in IQ. I never forgave myself and I've hated the Domiplan ever since. That was in 1969!! Smile I have both the I-50 (M39) and the I-50-2 (M42) versions now and I still think the old version is the better of the two.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Peter. Smile
I'm happy to know the M39 has better quality than the M42.
Problem with M39 seems to be reaching infinity.
Sure this lens is one of the best IQ/Price ratio. Wink


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Congratulations Olivier! This lens is a miniature marvel. I had one on my first ever SLR, a Zenit 3M. Imagine how my heart sank when I exchanged the camera for a Praktica with a Domiplan and discovered the difference in IQ. I never forgave myself and I've hated the Domiplan ever since. That was in 1969!! Smile I have both the I-50 (M39) and the I-50-2 (M42) versions now and I still think the old version is the better of the two.


Do not hate the Domiplan - it exists to remind us all how bad a lens can be Very Happy (Although my first one in Exakta fitting was actually pretty good! But it did fall to pieces!!)


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet little lens.





You will love it on tubes; see the point of the pencil.





This is where the pencil was pointing.



PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW.
Thank you Ron.
Yes, when seeing that, I'll love it. Wink
I'll give it a try on some flowers...

Do you reach infinity with it on the GF1 (without the ET Smile ) ?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Thank you Peter. Smile
I'm happy to know the M39 has better quality than the M42.
Problem with M39 seems to be reaching infinity.
Sure this lens is one of the best IQ/Price ratio. Wink


First of all congrats for this little game! I have /had many copy of them quality is a bit gamble not mount dependent. Most of them good to excellent,rarely find low quality lens. My M39 worst than M42 , I believe this lenses has no quality control in past due low selling price.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Oliver.

I use a m39 to m42 adapter ring & then m42 to M4/3 adapter.

I just took this shot from our balcony with the Industar-50 on the GF1.




PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely colors in Toronto.
Quite the same weather and season as here in northern France. Smile

With a M39 to Eos adapter, I can't reach infinity.
But when closed at F11, it's not so noticeable.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the Industar 50s. I have my 4th one on the way; an Industar 50-2 in Leica Thread Mount (I didn't know they existed). This will keep my other 3 Industars: 5cm, 50 & 50-2 company.

The 50-2 is the sharpest, they get softer as they get older and vignette a bit. At least in my experience.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how do we know the older ones from the new ?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:
So how do we know the older ones from the new ?

Well, the serial number is the first clue. Smile

The first silver versions had M39 mount for early Zenit and Krystal SLRs, and with an extension tube for RF cameras.
There were maybe some black M39 variants.
The I-50-2 in black is the version for later M42 Zenit cameras. This has a larger filter thread.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Lloydy wrote:
So how do we know the older ones from the new ?

Well, the serial number is the first clue. Smile

The first silver versions had M39 mount for early Zenit and Krystal SLRs, and with an extension tube for RF cameras.
There were maybe some black M39 variants.
The I-50-2 in black is the version for later M42 Zenit cameras. This has a larger filter thread.


Oldest ones are labeled in cm scale 5cm and if you are lucky with RED P , means coated and they have silver finish, made for M39 SLR and RF cameras both. SLR is small pancake, RF lens is like SLR lens+extension tube. My latest M42 copies are perform better than either early SLR or RF lens.

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Well, the serial number is the first clue


Usual but not always , some serial not start with years. like 00 and 9xx I have one early lens started with 9xx


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:
So how do we know the older ones from the new ?

The russian lenses' serial numbers generally begin by their production year.
In my case, it was produced in 1968.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few shots I took in 1967-69 on Kodachrome II using the Zenit 3m with the M39 silver I-50, the one I traded in!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Peter !
If it is an Opel Commodore in the first photo, with an Anglia in the back, it's another coincidence as my parents had an Opel Commodore and an Anglia in 1968... Very Happy
If it is an Opel Rekord, it was my father's previous car.

The Commodore was of a beautiful pale metal green with leather and a black "moleskine" roof. 6 cylinders in line. My father kept it 15 years.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's got to be after August 1968 Peter, the Cortina's reg is from then to July 1969. Nice car, a 1600E ?

I've got my Indy on the desk, it's a later - 1973 from the 7356052 serial number - all black M42 version. It's been on the Praktica MTL50 for a long time, it needs some exercise on the K10 tomorrow.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Lloydy wrote:
So how do we know the older ones from the new ?

The russian lenses' serial numbers generally begin by their production year.
In my case, it was produced in 1968.


Metoo my lens starts N68###


PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Hey, Peter !
If it is an Opel Commodore in the first photo, with an Anglia in the back, it's another coincidence as my parents had an Opel Commodore and an Anglia in 1968... Very Happy
If it is an Opel Rekord, it was my father's previous car.

The Commodore was of a beautiful pale metal green with leather and a black "moleskine" roof. 6 cylinders in line. My father kept it 15 years.

Sorry to disappoint you Olivier! The car in front is my father's Ford Cortina Mk II 1600E. That car was beautiful for its time, he only let me drive it once! It was very quiet and felt very powerful to me - I could hear the clock ticking! The Anglia 105E at the back was my own car, my first. It's a 1962 model and I bought it in 1966 and kept it until 1971.

Lloydy, the picture of the cars was taken in late 1969 according to the slide. The one of Edinburgh and Derwent Water were in 1968 and the Clematis was in 1967. The drag and drop thingy uploaded them in reverse order! Smile