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Olivier
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: Industar-50 3.5/50mm |
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Olivier wrote:
Hello,
I received this M39 lens and gave it a try on the 5D MkII, even if weather was grey.
It's a little and light lens with a stopless diaph. It's easy to use.
Aperture from f:3.5 to 16.
Min focusing distance : 0,65m
Filter diameter : 33mm
Weight : 65 gr
Diaph : 7 blades
Here are these samples.
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Well, they look pretty good to me. If you have extension tubes or bellows, try how it works for close-ups. I have one knocking about somewhere which I used on a bellows on my K10D and was well impressed by the results. Especially when you think how cheaply these little chaps sell for. _________________ Stephen
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Absolutely Stephen.
I'll try with extension tubes and bellows. In fact, I got it for that. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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jjphoto
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 406
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
When stopped down this lens is very sharp but lacking all of the character that it has wide open.
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thanks a lot for your link, JJ.
It's really impressive and I await the good light to come again so that I could give it a better trial. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
It's a great lens, a bit of a fiddle to use but I've got big clumsy fingers. I really should use mine a bit more, jjphoto's pictures have inspired me. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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jjphoto
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 406
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
It's an odd lens, but I think very interesting. And it only costs a few dollars!
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Congratulations Olivier! This lens is a miniature marvel. I had one on my first ever SLR, a Zenit 3M. Imagine how my heart sank when I exchanged the camera for a Praktica with a Domiplan and discovered the difference in IQ. I never forgave myself and I've hated the Domiplan ever since. That was in 1969!! I have both the I-50 (M39) and the I-50-2 (M42) versions now and I still think the old version is the better of the two. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Peter.
I'm happy to know the M39 has better quality than the M42.
Problem with M39 seems to be reaching infinity.
Sure this lens is one of the best IQ/Price ratio. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:57 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Congratulations Olivier! This lens is a miniature marvel. I had one on my first ever SLR, a Zenit 3M. Imagine how my heart sank when I exchanged the camera for a Praktica with a Domiplan and discovered the difference in IQ. I never forgave myself and I've hated the Domiplan ever since. That was in 1969!! I have both the I-50 (M39) and the I-50-2 (M42) versions now and I still think the old version is the better of the two. |
Do not hate the Domiplan - it exists to remind us all how bad a lens can be (Although my first one in Exakta fitting was actually pretty good! But it did fall to pieces!!) _________________ Stephen
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
Sweet little lens.
You will love it on tubes; see the point of the pencil.
This is where the pencil was pointing.
_________________ Ron
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
WOW.
Thank you Ron.
Yes, when seeing that, I'll love it.
I'll give it a try on some flowers...
Do you reach infinity with it on the GF1 (without the ET ) ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Thank you Peter.
I'm happy to know the M39 has better quality than the M42.
Problem with M39 seems to be reaching infinity.
Sure this lens is one of the best IQ/Price ratio. |
First of all congrats for this little game! I have /had many copy of them quality is a bit gamble not mount dependent. Most of them good to excellent,rarely find low quality lens. My M39 worst than M42 , I believe this lenses has no quality control in past due low selling price. _________________ -------------------------------
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
Yes Oliver.
I use a m39 to m42 adapter ring & then m42 to M4/3 adapter.
I just took this shot from our balcony with the Industar-50 on the GF1.
_________________ Ron
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Lovely colors in Toronto.
Quite the same weather and season as here in northern France.
With a M39 to Eos adapter, I can't reach infinity.
But when closed at F11, it's not so noticeable. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Love the Industar 50s. I have my 4th one on the way; an Industar 50-2 in Leica Thread Mount (I didn't know they existed). This will keep my other 3 Industars: 5cm, 50 & 50-2 company.
The 50-2 is the sharpest, they get softer as they get older and vignette a bit. At least in my experience. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
So how do we know the older ones from the new ? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
So how do we know the older ones from the new ? |
Well, the serial number is the first clue.
The first silver versions had M39 mount for early Zenit and Krystal SLRs, and with an extension tube for RF cameras.
There were maybe some black M39 variants.
The I-50-2 in black is the version for later M42 Zenit cameras. This has a larger filter thread. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
So how do we know the older ones from the new ? |
Well, the serial number is the first clue.
The first silver versions had M39 mount for early Zenit and Krystal SLRs, and with an extension tube for RF cameras.
There were maybe some black M39 variants.
The I-50-2 in black is the version for later M42 Zenit cameras. This has a larger filter thread. |
Oldest ones are labeled in cm scale 5cm and if you are lucky with RED P , means coated and they have silver finish, made for M39 SLR and RF cameras both. SLR is small pancake, RF lens is like SLR lens+extension tube. My latest M42 copies are perform better than either early SLR or RF lens.
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Well, the serial number is the first clue |
Usual but not always , some serial not start with years. like 00 and 9xx I have one early lens started with 9xx _________________ -------------------------------
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
So how do we know the older ones from the new ? |
The russian lenses' serial numbers generally begin by their production year.
In my case, it was produced in 1968. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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peterqd
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Here are a few shots I took in 1967-69 on Kodachrome II using the Zenit 3m with the M39 silver I-50, the one I traded in!!!
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Hey, Peter !
If it is an Opel Commodore in the first photo, with an Anglia in the back, it's another coincidence as my parents had an Opel Commodore and an Anglia in 1968...
If it is an Opel Rekord, it was my father's previous car.
The Commodore was of a beautiful pale metal green with leather and a black "moleskine" roof. 6 cylinders in line. My father kept it 15 years. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Lloydy
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
It's got to be after August 1968 Peter, the Cortina's reg is from then to July 1969. Nice car, a 1600E ?
I've got my Indy on the desk, it's a later - 1973 from the 7356052 serial number - all black M42 version. It's been on the Praktica MTL50 for a long time, it needs some exercise on the K10 tomorrow. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
So how do we know the older ones from the new ? |
The russian lenses' serial numbers generally begin by their production year.
In my case, it was produced in 1968. |
Metoo my lens starts N68### _________________ Ron
Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Hey, Peter !
If it is an Opel Commodore in the first photo, with an Anglia in the back, it's another coincidence as my parents had an Opel Commodore and an Anglia in 1968...
If it is an Opel Rekord, it was my father's previous car.
The Commodore was of a beautiful pale metal green with leather and a black "moleskine" roof. 6 cylinders in line. My father kept it 15 years. |
Sorry to disappoint you Olivier! The car in front is my father's Ford Cortina Mk II 1600E. That car was beautiful for its time, he only let me drive it once! It was very quiet and felt very powerful to me - I could hear the clock ticking! The Anglia 105E at the back was my own car, my first. It's a 1962 model and I bought it in 1966 and kept it until 1971.
Lloydy, the picture of the cars was taken in late 1969 according to the slide. The one of Edinburgh and Derwent Water were in 1968 and the Clematis was in 1967. The drag and drop thingy uploaded them in reverse order! _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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