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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:39 am    Post subject: industar 50-2 on 5DII Reply with quote
today I try my 10 euros APO industar in my garden
1000 iso on bellows no tripod no flash







PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes it is a bargain lens that can produce good images as you've shown. Well done with the bee shot.

I have the 50 and the 50-2. Get a lens hood as these will flare like 70's jeans if you don't. Cool


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hi poilu !!

another excellent APO lens Smile poor apo lanthar Smile ..

please, can you send me RAW files? If you don't mind, of course -
I'd like to run them through LighRoom to see how they look like there Smile

I will give you my FTP access -- Wink

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks martin, I scotched a small hood and it was ok

tF, here is a raw
http://rapidshare.com/files/362941186/IMG_7369.CR2
I had big problem with this red, it is out of srgb gamut
on my wide lcd it is gorgeous but it get orange in the conversion
show me what you get with your workflow


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
thanks martin, I scotched a small hood and it was ok

tF, here is a raw
http://rapidshare.com/files/362941186/IMG_7369.CR2
I had big problem with this red, it is out of srgb gamut
on my wide lcd it is gorgeous but it get orange in the conversion
show me what you get with your workflow



ok - I'll be back in 5 mins Smile

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


tf

Last edited by trifox on Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:33 pm; edited 2 times in total


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would go little bit up with the COLOUR TEMPERATURE but ..

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wow! now the red is great Shocked


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I tried this one with LR3 beta.
Did not compare to Poilu version or TF version before posting. What do you think Poilu?
No sharpening WB, Black point, Recovery, and Saturation adjustments only.
Small size jpg




PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
TF version
It looks beautiful but, Real color temp would be warmer I think. even in Greece it is march. Temp should be around 5k no?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tF version rules! much better than ours sunshine Embarassed


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cool Absolutely
OK Stan. Gives us the goods. How did you get here?
I still think it's a bit cool though. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
trifox wrote:
hi poilu !!

another excellent APO lens Smile poor apo lanthar Smile ..

You are right. Almost all tessar-formula lenses offers near-APO performance. Some of them even use lanthanum glass - e.g. Industar 61 L/Z 50/2.8 or Super / S-M-C Macro Takumar 50/4 (I still can't find written proof of that, but level of radioactivity matches lanthanum glass) Smile


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy - yes Smile -

that's why I stated to go up with WB balance --
the picture has been updated already -- you can see SMALL difference Smile

guys - I don't know -- it may be my laptop Smile It's still very well balanced since has been calibrated -- ehmm -- it was in 2005 ..

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your size is larger which helps also.
What temp do you have in this last edit?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
here we go:

1 - step -- we need to go down with VIBRANCE and SATURATION.. there's been also exposure set at lower level and contrast set higher..
and necessarily with GREEN/RED TINT more to the left -- to GREEN..

see this picture:


than adjust the noise reduction at reasonable level; also some sharpness added but I do this as usual...


finally -- we need to LEAVE the ADOBE COLOURs and use CAMERA FAITHFUL:



tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Stan Cool
I'm not surprised by WB. It still looks too cool for real open sunlight. Look at the greens. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy - done -- I have updated the same picture -- so you need to go to the page n1 again to see the result -- let me know Smile

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It does look more natural now Smile
We need to let Poilu tell us if it looks like real life.
Well Done Stanley. I learned a couple things from you today thank you. Cool

LR3 Beta is free for unlimited time. Well, until the official version is released. I have been trying it since January.
very much similar to LR2 with a few mods that I have yet to notice.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks Andy..

yes - poilu must say if it matches his view ..

I have also updated 1. screen from LR - the temperature is more than 4000 now..

I have downloaded the LR3 beta but haven't tried it yet ..

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
colder version is better for me, this flower is as red at it get
last version turn warm orange


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok its amazing. i'll try macro ina few weeks with my tubes.

Pic 4 is a face actually right ?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
i don't much understand y'all's technical language, but those are beautiful images, whether they are made with a bargain industar or something fancy. good work.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
colder version is better for me, this flower is as red at it get
last version turn warm orange


I am also more happy with the 'colder' version but it's personal ..

So -- poilu - for the colder version the values were:

Colour temperature: 3809
Tint: -3.

I'd like to do more pictures Wink let me know ...

tf


PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think we are seeing why Poilu was finding to orange in the first place.
The Canon bayer Cmos interprets the reds and greens off from each other in regard to light temperture (white balance).
I have seen the same in some of my images.
One can fiddle with the individual sliders in ACR and get closer to reality.
Looks like simple color temp setting goes off reality for one color or another.
Sorry for Hijack Poilu. Maybe I should open another thread.
Or maybe the greens were actually bleu Surprised
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