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HOYA WA f4 60mm takes a walk to the park
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: HOYA WA f4 60mm takes a walk to the park Reply with quote

Well, I took a walk today with an enlarger lens, a HOYA WA f4 60mm - hardly known is,
that it is a Biogon wide angle lens design. So it here it comes (sans sunshade admittedly...)
shot fully open at f4 except when mentioned....



















Full set is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/sets/72157638515492304/

(If you'd like to compare with another Biogon type lens, the Carl Zeiss Jena Lamegon, see here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/carl-zeiss-jena-lamegon-35mm-takes-a-walk-to-the-park-t63336.html )


Last edited by kds315* on Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:00 pm; edited 4 times in total


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bokeh:




DOF when stopping down:





PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contra Lucem / Low Key:





PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice indeed. Do you know what the coverage is? I'm guessing it's rated for 6x6 but if it will cover 6x9 it would be very useful to me.

All wide angle ELs are hard to find on ebay, the WA Componons appear three of four times a year but always fetch high prices.

I am hunting for the CE-Rokkor 5.6/80mm as that's an Orthometar type. Not at all easy to find, sadly.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6x6 it covers per inscription, doubt it does more. WA lenses are hard to find indeed.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very nice indeed. Do you know what the coverage is? I'm guessing it's rated for 6x6 but if it will cover 6x9 it would be very useful to me.

All wide angle ELs are hard to find on ebay, the WA Componons appear three of four times a year but always fetch high prices.

I am hunting for the CE-Rokkor 5.6/80mm as that's an Orthometar type. Not at all easy to find, sadly.


Guessed you missed that one yesterday then: Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been interested in this one. It also comes labeled as a Bogen WA. Supposed to be a pretty complex design. I remember someone on photo.net having the original brochure and it said it was an 8/4 element/group configuration.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn, do you really have to post all secrets here Wink
Yep, 8e/4g it should be as the reflexes.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww, sorry about that. Very Happy
Didn't think it was too much of a secret considering that's the first link that comes up if you type Hoya 4/60mm into Google.
Any idea of the actual manufacturer?


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoya, but some claim it was made by DOI (which might have subcontracted it to them though)


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Kowa, it has been speculated that Hoya ELs were made by Kowa as they are very similar to the Computar ELs.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I researched that a while back. I don't think the Hoya ELs had anything to do with Kowa.

My thought is that the confusion comes from the link through the Beseler Color Pros. I think the Beselers were originally re-branded Hoya ELs but then Beseler switched their source to Computars (Kowa/Chugai) without changing the Color Pro name. So Hoya is not related to Computar.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
Contra Lucem / Low Key:



This one is wonderful, Klaus!


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Alex, actually it is my fav too!! Was not easy to get the sun placed right and the
leave all transilluminated despite the blowing wind - but it's the result that counts Wink


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex H wrote:
kds315* wrote:
Contra Lucem / Low Key:



This one is wonderful, Klaus!


I couldn't agree more! Cool


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice , Klaus!


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was rude of me not to comment on the pictures. They are wonderful. I love them all!


PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, appreciate it!