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wariag
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 Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 44... Wich is the better model? |
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wariag wrote:
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What helios is the better choice?
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Well, IMHO the differences in image quality among several factories are almost
impossible to notice in regular use.
At the moment I've tested about 30 different Helios-44 lenses, many versions,
and all what I can say - all were pretty good.
In my inventory I have 5 copies of Helios-44-2 from KMZ, Valdai and Belomo,
3 copies of Helios 44-M-4 (KMZ and Valdai), one Helios 44-K4 and 3 copies of Helios 44-3 (Belomo).
Which is the best one?
Well, the best one is copy which have clean optics with no scratches, and OK mechanically, with no oil on diaphragm 
For pleasure of use with dSLR I would choose any preset version - 44-2 or 44-3.
For image quality - Helios 44-3 or Helios 44-K/M-4 are multicoated, so they give better results in backlight conditions.
Automatic diaphragm Helios 44-M/K versions have less diaphragm blades, so their "bokeh" is a bit less creamy.
My favourite one is Helios 44-3.
That's all.
Whatever (not broken) Helios You choose, You shall not be disappointed with APS-c sensor camera. With full frame sensor You must accept noticeable lower resolution in the corners at f2, or step down to f4 to be happy again.
If You can not live without more "pixel sharpness" in the corners at full aperture and 35mm sensor - choose something like Zenitar 50/1.7, Pancolar 50/1.8 or whatever lens with better corner resolution.
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karabud
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
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| Why? Did you perform a test with the others? |
My sample is sharp as Nikkor 50mm 1.8 af-d(at full aperture too).Btw my father used this lens for 20 years with great results:) |
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Chiti
Joined: 09 Apr 2009
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Chiti wrote:
Thank you for your answer Wariag
The cornes isn' t a priority... if i want a good resolutions in the corners i can use de CZ planar, for example.
Reading about the diferent Helios models in other pages, I'm starting to choose the 44-3 as the winner in my mind, and it's probably that I'll buy one unit in a few days.
Regards
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SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
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dimitrygo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 44... Wich is the better model? |
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dimitrygo wrote:
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For pleasure of use with dSLR I would choose any preset version - 44-2 or 44-3.
For image quality - Helios 44-3 or Helios 44-K/M-4 are multicoated, so they give better results in backlight conditions.
Automatic diaphragm Helios 44-M/K versions have less diaphragm blades, so their "bokeh" is a bit less creamy.
My favourite one is Helios 44-3.
That's all.
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Probably a good compromise for all these aspects is Helios 44M: multicoated (if I am not mistaken), 8 blades diaphragm (the last model that has this feature), A/M aperture switch (again if I am not mistaken the only model that have this feature, for me it is more convenient than preset). |
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
44M isn't multi-coated. Even majority of 44M-4 isn't multi-coated - only some late copies are. These are MC:
44-3
44M-4 (late copies)
44M-5
44M-6
44M-7
77M
77M-4
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I received an original glossy Helios 44 today! I've had a few 44-2, 44M and 44M-4 before, but never the first version 
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
Silver one from KMZ, or zebra from MMZ? Both of them made 44(-1)
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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| Silver one from KMZ, or zebra from MMZ? Both of them made 44(-1) |
It's a glossy black KMZ 
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rawhead
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rawhead wrote:
Took some shots with the v.1 Helios-44 with 13 aperture blades.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rawhead/tags/helios4458mmf2/
And I'm quite liking it. Contrary to my fears, it really did not have much flare problems; I don't know if that's because of the recessed primary element, but it definitely felt better with flare than my 44M.
Too bad I won't feel comfortable using it on my 5D because of the mirror issue; I took this pic with t T-mount adapter in between to act as a short extender.
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I have to admit something to you guys.
None of these variations seem to different to me.
Maybe I think we make to big of a deal about 50mm ish lenses.
Almost all are so good that it's difficult to say "Oh this one is by far the best choice".
Now we are talking about the best within a same optical formula/model 
It's just like saying how long is a piece of thread. But all the threads are the same length in this case.
Am I so wrong or just a little bit?
Sorry I just don't think I get it.
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rawhead
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rawhead wrote:
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I have to admit something to you guys.
None of these variations seem to different to me.
Maybe I think we make to big of a deal about 50mm ish lenses.
Almost all are so good that it's difficult to say "Oh this one is by far the best choice".
Now we are talking about the best within a same optical formula/model
It's just like saying how long is a piece of thread. But all the threads are the same length in this case.
Am I so wrong or just a little bit?
Sorry I just don't think I get it. |
If the diagnosis is binary–– good vs. bad –– then I think you're right, most 50s are *good*. In that sense "the best Helios" might certainly be a foolish question.
But do they all have the same qualities? I think not. I now have 3 Helios-44s (and the fourth, and perhaps the last, 44M-7, is on its way), and all three definitelyi have different characteristics. Is one of the bad? No, they're all good; just good in different ways.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Oh rawhead, you kill me.
I believed to have all surewith the helios quality, but now you returned it complicate to me
When it knew it so clearly I bored a little. 
Rino
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
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If the diagnosis is binary–– good vs. bad –– then I think you're right, most 50s are *good*. In that sense "the best Helios" might certainly be a foolish question. |
So you see my point. Although the thread is which one is better so maybe I'm out of line.
I guess that maybe it's hard to split hairs so fine with this focal.
If you went down every f stop of every lens you could say this one is best here that one best there etc.....
Maybe someone who made advise in another thread is correct.
They Are cheap......buy them all
Honesty from me once again. I did not shoot a 50ish lens in the last 6 months 
Preferring a 35mm for my normal at this point.
BTW
I appreciate all the samples. It really makes for a much more interesting thread 
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rawhead
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
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| They Are cheap......buy them all |
I concur
I have to say, though, if the bokeh circles can do this at F8
Then the 13 blades of my Helios-44 are certainly paying off. Better/worse aside, this version may very well end up being my personal "favorite" Helios-44.
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
[quote="F16SUNSHINE"]
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BTW
I appreciate all the samples. It really makes for a much more interesting thread |
Yep, I have 44M-6 and heard that it's not MC version. I would like to see if anyone can post from odifferent 44M versions.
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
| Shrek wrote: |
| no-X wrote: |
| Silver one from KMZ, or zebra from MMZ? Both of them made 44(-1) |
It's a glossy black KMZ |
Nice. Could you post some pictures? Is it M39 or M42? Thanks.
//ed: I found another (4th?) version: silver MMZ
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Getting some members suggestion, I bought this morning the 44-3.
It's MC 44-3 N° 8647507. I will post pic later (all know this lens, but I want to post the pic because it was very difficult to find one 58 here, it's satisfaction act).
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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horvlas
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horvlas wrote:
Today I bought a 44-2 MMZ, so the the collection almost complete... (Not so, there are som much variations on the market).
If I have enough time, soom I will perform a test with theese lens:
Helios 44-2 MMZ
Helios 44-2 KMZ
Helios 44-2 JOV
Helios 44-3 MMZ
Helios 44m KMZ
Helios 44m-4 JOV
MC Helios 44m-4 KMZ
MC Helios 44m-6 JOV
MC Helios 44m-7 JOV
MC Helios 44m-7 JOV (last model 1996 with rubber)
MC Helios 77m-4
and the original: CZJ Biotar T 2/58 |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Horvlas.
Congratulations, Your helios collection is fabulous.
I have only one
Perhaps you can send a pic with all your helios. Could be vey informative.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Chiti
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Chiti wrote:
And we hope that you have a little time for theese perform!!
Regards
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D-SLR: Canon 5D II | Panasonic GH1 | Canon 24-105L | Panasonic 14-140
SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
Pentacon: 135/2.8 preset | 300/4 | 50/1.8
Rikenon: P Macro 105/2.8 (Kiron) | 50/2
Asahi Takumar: STak 55/1.8
Samyang: 14/2.8
Helios: 44-3 |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| Chiti wrote: |
And we hope that you have a little time for theese perform!!
Regards |
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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estudleon wrote:
I could find a 44-3 to buy. And I did it
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Posts: 561
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dimitrygo wrote:
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44M isn't multi-coated. Even majority of 44M-4 isn't multi-coated - only some late copies are. These are MC:
44-3
44M-4 (late copies)
44M-5
44M-6
44M-7
77M
77M-4 |
And what do you think about this one?
I know it is very rare model, it is even not listed among the official models. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 57865
Location: Hungary
Expire: 2025-11-18
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Attila wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I could find a 44-3 to buy. And I did it
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Great catch! I look forward samples!
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008
Posts: 2495
Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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no-X wrote:
| dimitrygo wrote: |
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44M isn't multi-coated. Even majority of 44M-4 isn't multi-coated - only some late copies are. These are MC:
44-3
44M-4 (late copies)
44M-5
44M-6
44M-7
77M
77M-4 |
And what do you think about this one?
I know it is very rare model, it is even not listed among the official models. |
I have never seen it. Could you tell me its serial number?
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