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Joosep
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Or you might have bought one with a serial number past 90#####. _________________ Regards,
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Joosep.
Can the lens be focused to infinito in this way?
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Jeff Zen
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Jeff Zen wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
| Or you might have bought one with a serial number past 90#####. |
Congratulations. Nice job! With respects to woodrim, the earlier models of this lens are much more likely to be superior. After the fall of the Soviet Union some materials became scarce and often quality control suffered. The earlier coating seems very different and better too, at least to me. I am not super-expert, but I have tried many 44-3 lenses throughout it's production. I like the early ones better. A file or rough sandpaper, and some elbow-grease is all you need. This is an amazing portrait lens.
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
| Jeff Zen wrote: |
| woodrim wrote: |
| Or you might have bought one with a serial number past 90#####. |
Congratulations. Nice job! With respects to woodrim, the earlier models of this lens are much more likely to be superior. After the fall of the Soviet Union some materials became scarce and often quality control suffered. The earlier coating seems very different and better too, at least to me. I am not super-expert, but I have tried many 44-3 lenses throughout it's production. I like the early ones better. A file or rough sandpaper, and some elbow-grease is all you need. This is an amazing portrait lens.
I love your pictures! |
Thats exactly what I have concluded too ! Thanks!
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Joosep.
Can the lens be focused to infinito in this way?
Rino. |
Yes. The focussing ring is static to the mount, so all you need to do is file off 3 mm and your good to go. Im gonna test it some further today and tomorrow. _________________ The future is analogue.
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
This one is made by Belomo, a Belorussian factory. They had their own, very characteristic barrel design. _________________ List of lenses |
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Great work, but the OCD in me wants to see a smooth painted finsh.  _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
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Great work, but the OCD in me wants to see a smooth painted finsh.  |
You can always paint it.... _________________ The future is analogue.
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
| Jeff Zen wrote: |
| woodrim wrote: |
| Or you might have bought one with a serial number past 90#####. |
Congratulations. Nice job! With respects to woodrim, the earlier models of this lens are much more likely to be superior. After the fall of the Soviet Union some materials became scarce and often quality control suffered. The earlier coating seems very different and better too, at least to me. I am not super-expert, but I have tried many 44-3 lenses throughout it's production. I like the early ones better. A file or rough sandpaper, and some elbow-grease is all you need. This is an amazing portrait lens.
I love your pictures! |
Are you talking image quality or build quality? I now have 44-2, 44-3, and 44M-7 and have a difficult time seeing any difference. But with build quality, I think the 44-2 feels much better focusing. The 44M-7 aperture ring feels too clunky. _________________ Regards,
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Jeff Zen
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Jeff Zen wrote:
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Are you talking image quality or build quality? I now have 44-2, 44-3, and 44M-7 and have a difficult time seeing any difference. But with build quality, I think the 44-2 feels much better focusing. The 44M-7 aperture ring feels too clunky. |
I am talking about quality control optically. Some later models I have tested definitely seemed softer on one side or the other wide open. Again, I am no scientist expert, but the lens coating on the early ones seems much better to me. I suspect that Belomo cut corners on later runs of this lens due to chemical shortages, but one would have to examine and test a large number of lenses to be sure. The build quality on the 44-3 is decent but you have to make sure those little screws on the focusing ring stay tightened. They will slowly work themselves loose.
Woodrim, I agree the 44-2 feels better focusing.
I could post a photo to show difference in coating on the 44-3 if you like, but that doesn't prove much. |
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
I have a 44-2 by JOV (Valdai) made in 1984 and I have a 44-2 by KMZ made in 1971. The KMZ one is mechanically perfect, super smooth, the finish of everything is superb. JOV version looks like total crap, the finish on the metal is very poor, the color on the writings has faded.
But I think all this is a good. Lemons keep the price down and if you know what to look for, you can get it something really good for peanuts.
There are also the double 0 special ones out there.
I think its hard to show the decline in lenses because the quality of different manufacturers varied alot. So Its easier to see the difference in camera bodies. Its sayd that the last good Zenit was the 12 and after 1989 the russians havent made one sturdy camera, everything just breaks down (ive had/have zenits to back up this theory).
My russian lens with the best contrast and color rendering is the Mir-24 MC by KMZ made in 1984.
I have played around with some russians from the 60-70s. They are like TANKS. Super heavy, sturdy, never fail. _________________ The future is analogue.
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