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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:27 am Post subject: Helios 44-3 M42 Bayonet Problem |
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Tharos wrote:
It seems like I received a rare copy of Helios 44-3 M42 version which is problematic. When it is screwed on the camera the focus ring is stucked and it can not be moved. When you try to move it, the lense completely moves and gets loosen.
I found a solution on another forum (hope it is not bad to post another forum link here) :
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/77158-caution-helios-44-fans-potential-buyers.html
I will try to have it fixed following the method the link suggests, any comments? I also contacted the seller about this as he did not mention about this.
It is good to let the people know about this, so if they want to purchase Helios they should be careful and check before buying from pics or asking the seller. |
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Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 1296
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Nice one! this problem was reported on here a while ago, it seems there are differences in build in some lenses that cause this problem . Luckily mine was ok, and now we have a solution too, for others- many thanks |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Luckily I had it fixed at work today and now the lens is working fine... I can confirm that this method solves the problem...
If anyone needs help with that I can send before and after pictures, although I do not know how to post a picture at the forum |
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Jeff Zen
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 262 Location: Northwest USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Jeff Zen wrote:
I crudely ground the focus ring down on my 1983 44-3 down with a tungsten-carbide bit on my Dremel tool. I almost ruined it too, but everything turned out ok in the end.
I also own a 1993 44-3 and it's a beauty, but one thing I noticed is that the coatings on the two lenses are definitely not the same. The coating on the earlier lens is absolutely superior in my opinion. In that uncertain time after the fall of the Soviet Union materials were scarce, and quality control was not quite as stringent. The coatings suffered. My 1993 lens is still a very fine lens but I am convinced that the 1983 version has better color rendering and a little less flare. When these sometimes unscrupulous dealers send you an early 44-3 that needs adjustment instead of a later version, they are not necessarily doing a disservice!
I would love to see your before and after pictures Tharos, when you figure out how to post them. |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Hope below link works. Mine works like charm after fixing, the picture are not so clear but I think it will give you an idea.
http://img4.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=beforevp.jpg
I am glad to hear that old versions are better
I will try the lense out tomorrow if there is no rain. I will add pictures taken with this lense for sure. _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
Expire: 2011-12-05
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Tharos wrote: |
Hope below link works. Mine works like charm after fixing, the picture are not so clear but I think it will give you an idea.
http://img4.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=beforevp.jpg
I am glad to hear that old versions are better
I will try the lense out tomorrow if there is no rain. I will add pictures taken with this lense for sure. |
I wil have to do the same to a beautiful Mamiya 135mm f2.8, how did you do the actual grinding without making a mess? From the picture it looks like a very neat job. |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
I work in a huge, TV manufactoring company and luckily we have every kind of workers in the company. So I had it fixed in a metal fixing workshop. So I was kinda lucky. _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Oh and by the way welcome to the forum. You will like it in here, there are many talented and helpful people.
I wonder which kind of lenses have this problem ? Besides mine and yours. _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
Expire: 2011-12-05
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Tharos wrote: |
Oh and by the way welcome to the forum. You will like it in here, there are many talented and helpful people. |
Thanks Tharos. I've been lurking for a while but I'm assembling a small collection of lenses in M42 and PK mount, so I guess I won't stay hidden much anymore.
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I wonder which kind of lenses have this problem ? Besides mine and yours. |
The EBC Fujinons have the annoying ridge to transmit aperture value but that is pretty easy to file off, I already did it on a 55mm 1.8 and my 200mm f4.5 is next in line. |
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