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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: Guess the lens - 35mm |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hi folks
Picked up an old 35mm lens the other day, not one I knew much about.
Weather is rotten here, constant rain. Managed to snap these test shots during a brief break in the rainfall.
All wide open, I'm surprised how sharp this lens is.
Only clues I'll give are these: it's got a focal length of 35mm and it's in M42.
Just want to see what people think it is and what they think of it's quality without any bias, hence I'm asking you to guess! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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f8andbethere
Joined: 16 May 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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f8andbethere wrote:
Auto Chinon? |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
f8andbethere wrote: |
Auto Chinon? |
Nope, sorry, not even close.
What do you think of the overall IQ? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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f8andbethere
Joined: 16 May 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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f8andbethere wrote:
Bokeh is busy.
No sun, so hard to comment on CA or flare. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
f8andbethere wrote: |
Bokeh is busy.
No sun, so hard to comment on CA or flare. |
Yeah, I'm dying for the sun to appear so I can take some more shots, not seen the sun in over a week! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
Yashica ML 35/2.8?
edit: ah, scrap that. just noticed now that it's an M42 lens _________________ Toni,
EOS 450D
CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 MC | Pancolar 50/1.8 MC
Contax Planar 50/1.4 AEJ | Contax Sonnar 135/2.8 AEJ
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Is it well known? Primagon? I'm just guessing! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
no idea about the lens, but I really like the 'vintage' colors of the first crop, the bokeh complements this vintage look very very well _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Is it well known? Primagon? I'm just guessing! |
Damn, I was hoping it would take a bit longer than that!
It's a Meyer Primagon 4.5/35
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
EDIT: too late! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
no idea about the lens, but I really like the 'vintage' colors of above all the second photo, and think that the 'busy' bokeh complements this vintage look very very well |
I think it's quite similar in overall look to my much later Pentacon 2.8/28.
These were shot wide open with the Pentacon:
I like my Meyer/Pentacon lenses (apart from the Domiplan and Primotar) hence I'm collecting them. An Oreston 1.8/50 also arrived today, will test that tomorrow. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Good looking lens! I'm starting to worry that I'm consumed too much lens information over the past 2.5 years though
I haven't seen one of those in M42 mount for quite a while, good catch! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Good looking lens! I'm starting to worry that I'm consumed too much lens information over the past 2.5 years though
I haven't seen one of those in M42 mount for quite a while, good catch! |
I can't afford to collect Zeiss DDR glass let alone Zeiss T* so I decided to collect Meyer/Pentacon lenses. This was because I really liked the PB mount Pentacon 1.8/50 and 2.8/28 so much I converted them to EOS mount. Then I got a Pentacon 4/200 M42 cheap that is really nice, I added a Primotar 3.5/135 a couple of weeks back for 13ukp but it's not very sharp, nice bokeh though.
I paid 39ukp for this Primagon inc shipping from Germany and it's in excellent condition, focus and aperture are really smooth, glass looks near perfect, I really like the ergonomics too, all metal rings, no plastic at all. I think that's a good price as they seem to usually go for 2-3x that price, same money as a Flektogon 35.
I always thought Meyer lenses were nothing special as I had a Domiplan many moons ago and it was crap and even cheaper that the Tessar 2.8/50 or Helios-44 as options with a Praktica M42 SLR (which I had a few of) so I thought Meyer were even cheaper than Zeiss DDR's budget stuff (2.8/50 Tessar).
Now I've tried a few more Meyer lenses I really like them, most of them are sharp and all have interesting character, and for me, character is what it's all about.
How would people say this Primagon compares to the Flektogon 35? Now I have a Primagon do I still need to save up for a Flek?
I also have a Mir-1 37mm on the way, cost me 22ukp, I figure between the Mir and the Primagon, I will have a nice pair of 'normal' length lenses as I have a APS-C sensor EOS 10D and 50s are mild telephotos due to the 1.5x crop factor. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
BTW did anyone spot the clue in the last pic?
Meyer Trioplan lens on the Pentona II, a subtle clue... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:13 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Do you have the Lydith? Now IMO that's a great lens! _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Do you have the Lydith? Now IMO that's a great lens! |
No, I love my Pentacon 2.9/28 so if the Lydith is similar I'll like it. There is the Pentacon 2.8/29 as well, no idea how the three differ in optical formula.
Did Meyer ever do a wider lens than the Lydith? They seem to have made a few lenses of similar length - 30mm Lydth, 35mm Primagon, 40mm Helioplan, 45mm Trioplan etc but never seen anything wider than the 2.8/28 Pentacon I already have. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Good looking lens! I'm starting to worry that I'm consumed too much lens information over the past 2.5 years though
I haven't seen one of those in M42 mount for quite a while, good catch! |
I can't afford to collect Zeiss DDR glass let alone Zeiss T* so I decided to collect Meyer/Pentacon lenses. This was because I really liked the PB mount Pentacon 1.8/50 and 2.8/28 so much I converted them to EOS mount. Then I got a Pentacon 4/200 M42 cheap that is really nice, I added a Primotar 3.5/135 a couple of weeks back for 13ukp but it's not very sharp, nice bokeh though.
I paid 39ukp for this Primagon inc shipping from Germany and it's in excellent condition, focus and aperture are really smooth, glass looks near perfect, I really like the ergonomics too, all metal rings, no plastic at all. I think that's a good price as they seem to usually go for 2-3x that price, same money as a Flektogon 35.
I always thought Meyer lenses were nothing special as I had a Domiplan many moons ago and it was crap and even cheaper that the Tessar 2.8/50 or Helios-44 as options with a Praktica M42 SLR (which I had a few of) so I thought Meyer were even cheaper than Zeiss DDR's budget stuff (2.8/50 Tessar).
Now I've tried a few more Meyer lenses I really like them, most of them are sharp and all have interesting character, and for me, character is what it's all about.
How would people say this Primagon compares to the Flektogon 35? Now I have a Primagon do I still need to save up for a Flek?
I also have a Mir-1 37mm on the way, cost me 22ukp, I figure between the Mir and the Primagon, I will have a nice pair of 'normal' length lenses as I have a APS-C sensor EOS 10D and 50s are mild telephotos due to the 1.5x crop factor. |
It's fun achieving results near (quite a few times equal) to the guys with very expensive lenses with inexpensive lenses...I've never paid over £30 for a 35mm lens (yeah alright no jokes about my shots posted show it). _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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