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DaSwede
Joined: 24 Apr 2014 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: Found some 1960(s) lenses... |
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DaSwede wrote:
Hi everyone! First post here! I'm not really a photographer and know very little about photography and lenses, but this is the most in-depth forum I've been able to find about manual focus lenses. While cleaning out a closet at my parents home, I found 3 lenses from the 1960s(?). Please excuse the newbie/stupid questions...
Here's what I've been able to find out about them and some pictures (please excuse the cell phone quality, I took them in haste this morning):
- Pentacon 1.8/50 Multicoating Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Lydith 3.5/30 Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 Lens
Images don't seem to work, so here's the links...
lars-astrom.com/external/Lenses1.jpg
lars-astrom.com/external/Lenses2.jpg
Are they worth anything? I don't know how good shape they are in, but I'm assuming they can be rebuilt? Where would I take them to have them rebuilt/repaired (if needed)? Also, I have a Sony A300 camera, could I get an adapter for the lenses and/or would it even be worth it to use them?
Thanks in advance! I can take some better pictures tonight... |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Images won't show in your first post, it's an anti-spam measure. From the next one everything will work just as expected.
The lenses you found are quite good, so valuable under a user's point of view, but quite common, so they aren't sold for premium prices.
AFAIK, these lenses were available in M42 screwmount or exakta bayonet.
If they have a screwmount, they can be easily adapted to your sony dslr, through a cheap, simple, and easily available adapter.
If they have a bayonet mount (probably exakta), you won't be able to use them on your camera: I don't know if adapters esist, but if they do, you'd probably won't be able to focus at infinity with them.
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Almost forgot: welcome to the forum!
re-EDIT
from the pictures it looks like the lydith is in m42 mount, so potential good news. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Found some 1960(s) lenses... |
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kds315* wrote:
DaSwede wrote: |
Hi everyone! First post here! I'm not really a photographer and know very little about photography and lenses, but this is the most in-depth forum I've been able to find about manual focus lenses. While cleaning out a closet at my parents home, I found 3 lenses from the 1960s(?). Please excuse the newbie/stupid questions...
Here's what I've been able to find out about them and some pictures (please excuse the cell phone quality, I took them in haste this morning):
- Pentacon 1.8/50 Multicoating Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Lydith 3.5/30 Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 Lens
Images don't seem to work, so here's the links...
Are they worth anything? I don't know how good shape they are in, but I'm assuming they can be rebuilt? Where would I take them to have them rebuilt/repaired (if needed)? Also, I have a Sony A300 camera, could I get an adapter for the lenses and/or would it even be worth it to use them?
Thanks in advance! I can take some better pictures tonight... |
Welcome here!
(the http:// was missing in front of the image links and not emedded in IMG-tags) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Looks like M42 screwmount for me
And yes, lenses are not the world greatest but they should be worth to try them
You can buy cheap Sony Alpha - M42 Adapter's on Ebay.
I don't know A300 but maybe you will need an adapter with AF-confirm chip that the lens will work outside M-Mode (Many elderly DSLRs do take manual lenses only in M-Mode).
Click here to see on Ebay.de
And a programmable chip if you wan't that the camera internal image stabilisation of you camera is working correctly
Click here to see on Ebay.de
Or look for an unchipped adapter if you don't care to use them only in M-Mode (around 5-10€ from China) _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
Hello DaSwede and welcome to the forum,
As Aanything already said, these lenses are good lenses, not top glass but not rubbish, very useful and might give you good IQ. For the pictures i see that they are M42 screw mount so they should be able to adapt to your camera.
Image quality you can do a quick search in the forum and you will find plenty of sample images from all three so you can have an idea of what these lenses are capable of.
In terms of value they are not expensive lenses, the Lydith might be the most expensive of them (30-40 GBP), the 200 mm (25-35 GBP) and the 50 mm is very common and is around 10-20 GBP. This is an approximate value based on experience.
Hope you decide to attach them to your camera and looking forward to see the results. Good Luck. |
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
Phew, at first I thought someone had found a collection with 1960 lenses!
Welcome to the forum! _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The Orestegor is a great lens, it's big heavy and has the two ring stop down aperture which if you're not familiar with it can take some getting used to, but....it's a great lens. I love mine.
One word of warning, if the aperture blades look very glossy, shine a LED torch into the lens from both ends, then there might be oil on the blades - the lens lubricant breaks down and the oil creeps onto the moving blades. Surprisingly, that makes the blades stick together and they come out of the mechanism that moves them. And they are not easy to get back in. If the blades look oily, move the aperture very gently, if at all. The lens is probably worth having serviced if there is oil. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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DaSwede
Joined: 24 Apr 2014 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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DaSwede wrote:
Thanks for the great info! I'm going to grab an adapter for the Orestegor lens and get all of them serviced! |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
I used to have a Sony A300, it only works in M mode with an M42 adapter, i did not mind... worked for me! I used the Pentacon 4/200 and the 1.8/50 both on the Sony, with excellent results!! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1782 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
This those three you nearly have all the lens you would ever need honestly.
But I don't want to ruin the surprise for you so forget I said as much |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Welcome.
Nice collection. Not valuable but great lenses none the less. Dont start spending money getting them serviced, try them first. If the focus is a little stiff, you may try a few drops of lighter fuel on the focusing screw - maybe visible from the back. If it isnt, dripping it down the focusing ring often does the trick.
I'm sure members here would buy them from you if you decided to sell. (there may be restrictions on Market Place for new members)
let us know how you get on. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Webwalker
Joined: 09 Jan 2012 Posts: 96 Location: Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Webwalker wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
... Dont start spending money getting them serviced, try them first. If the focus is a little stiff, you may try a few drops of lighter fuel on the focusing screw - maybe visible from the back. If it isnt, dripping it down the focusing ring often does the trick.
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I hold a different opinion from you, philslizzy.
A lubricant has certain properties and does not flow at high temperatures. The lighter fuel changes the behavior of lubricants and after some time (let's say next year) the mixture may appear on the optical elements and the aperture blades! Also as an oil mist.
So I advise not to do so. _________________ Sony SLT A58
MF: Mir-1 silver GP Brussels, Zenitar-M 1.7/50, Helios 44 silver, Indi 50-2, Jupiter 38 4/75, MC CZJ Biometar 2.8/80, Jupiter 11 crome, MC Tamron SP 28-80mm f/3.5-4.2, Vivitar 75-205 mm f/3.8
AF: Minolta AF 50mm 1.7, mini beercan, beercan, secret handshake, Sigma Tele Converter X1.4 |
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Dogtag
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Posts: 166 Location: Holland del norte
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Found some 1960(s) lenses... |
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Dogtag wrote:
DaSwede wrote: |
Hi everyone! First post here! I'm not really a photographer and know very little about photography and lenses, but this is the most in-depth forum I've been able to find about manual focus lenses. While cleaning out a closet at my parents home, I found 3 lenses from the 1960s(?). Please excuse the newbie/stupid questions...
Here's what I've been able to find out about them and some pictures (please excuse the cell phone quality, I took them in haste this morning):
- Pentacon 1.8/50 Multicoating Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Lydith 3.5/30 Lens
- Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 Lens
Images don't seem to work, so here's the links...
lars-astrom.com/external/Lenses1.jpg
lars-astrom.com/external/Lenses2.jpg
Are they worth anything? I don't know how good shape they are in, but I'm assuming they can be rebuilt? Where would I take them to have them rebuilt/repaired (if needed)? Also, I have a Sony A300 camera, could I get an adapter for the lenses and/or would it even be worth it to use them?
Thanks in advance! I can take some better pictures tonight... |
The pentacon is definitely not from the 60's, more 70's and 80's, but the adapters are pretty cheap
http://www.ebay.com/itm/M42-Lens-to-Minolta-MA-SONY-Alpha-Mount-Adapter-a33-a55-/200771851057
It's sony A mount to m42. _________________ Konica AR fan
Konica AR, 135/2.5 135/3.2 135/3.5 100/2.8 85/1.8 55/3.5-macro 57/1.2 57/1.4 50/1.4 52/1.8 50/1.7(3x) 40/1.8 35/2.8 35/2 28/1.8 24/2.8
Missing UC 15mm and 21mm |
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