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mo


Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 6589 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:41 am Post subject: Formal - informal..Helios 2/58 |
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These are the photos I was talking about in another post.I will tell you what I like about them and you can tell me any thing else...
The Filtered light background is exactly what I wanted,and why I chose the Helios.
The white dress caused me problems ,so I had to adjust brightness and a few other things so you could see the details.They were mucking around a fair bit so there was a lot of movement action happening.As you can see they are not meant to be proper formal photos ...I wanted to capture the fun.
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#3 This I like for the reason I got her in focus...does it bother you about him not being in focus?
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SonicScot


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: |
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I think you did well in your attempt to capture the sense of fun, the Helios bokeh works for me too.
The only thing that bothers me is the skin tones, on my calibrated monitor the lady looks yellow I'm afraid.
Apart from that I really like the shots.
(edit: regarding #3, the guy being OOF is a non-issue, the photo is great) _________________ Gary
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mo


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I can't say about the skin color..I know my monitor is not the best and it looks ok to me (I will see what others say with what they see in regards to the skin color).... it may have been upset when I adjusted for the white dress issues,note in the first one it is really white and the others you see the detail. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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my_photography

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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#1, interesting shot that only shows the hands of the groom. The filter light is great. However, I think the background with all the branches are a bit too complex therefore reduces the effect of the posture of the groom. But I am sure those are ad hoc photos and we take the best what we can where we stand. _________________
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mo


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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#1 Does annoy me with his hands, I wish I had timed it right but I was pleased with her being in focus and the light.So as a family snap it works for me.
I have to ask,I know the Helios helps with portraits of people because it softens out the features...is the softness in these photos acceptable softness or could it be improved upon? I see them as slightly out of focus or there is too much movement? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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SonicScot


Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 1413 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: |
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As an example I took the first image (hope you don't mind) and adjusted the white balance slightly in Lightroom. I then uploaded it using this forum's 'upload picture' function, it appears my white balance correction was undone
Then I try uploading to Photobucket before placing the direct link here...and this time the white balance correction stays put.
(I have no idea how I have a watermark on this image ) _________________ Gary
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SonicScot


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| my_photography wrote: | | #1, interesting shot that only shows the hands of the groom. The filter light is great. However, I think the background with all the branches are a bit too complex therefore reduces the effect of the posture of the groom. But I am sure those are ad hoc photos and we take the best what we can where we stand. |
I agree that the background is a little too 'busy'.
I really like the fact that the groom is partially hidden. It's not a shot for the formal album but it would fit into a 'fun' album. _________________ Gary
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Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 (Kiron)
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios 44-2 58/2
Nikon 50/1.2 Contax Zeiss Planar 50/1.7
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
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my_photography

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| mo wrote: |
...is the softness in these photos acceptable softness or could it be improved upon? I see them as slightly out of focus or there is too much movement? |
Depending on where you were focusing, I don't think any of the three photos were focused spot on. The couples were moving one way or another so this could be part of the reason. Not sure what aperture you were using (assuming f4) but maybe a smaller aperture (f5.6) might also help a bit. I like the softness of #3 though. _________________
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mo


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I don't see a watermark? Thanks Scot I can now see the skin difference with your lightroom adjustment. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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SonicScot


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| mo wrote: | | I don't see a watermark? Thanks Scot I can now see the skin difference with your lightroom adjustment. |
That's strange, I can see one
Anyway......no problem at all, happy to help  _________________ Gary
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Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 (Kiron)
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios 44-2 58/2
Nikon 50/1.2 Contax Zeiss Planar 50/1.7
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
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mo


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| my_photography wrote: | | mo wrote: |
...is the softness in these photos acceptable softness or could it be improved upon? I see them as slightly out of focus or there is too much movement? |
Depending on where you were focusing, I don't think any of the three photos were focused spot on. The couples were moving one way or another so this could be part of the reason. Not sure what aperture you were using (assuming f4) but maybe a smaller aperture (f5.6) might also help a bit. I like the softness of #3 though. |
Your guess would be about right for the aperture...I can not remember.I would have been trying to focus on the eyes or at least the face. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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poilu

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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superb look from the helios, they are nice like that
auto WB from Scot is too cold and the lipstick turn violet _________________ T* |
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SonicScot


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| poilu wrote: | superb look from the helios, they are nice like that
auto WB from Scot is too cold and the lipstick turn violet |
Violet? Sampled in Lightroom it's definitely red. I'd say the groom's shirt/waistcoat is a lot closer to violet than the lipstick.  _________________ Gary
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Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 (Kiron)
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios 44-2 58/2
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Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
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Attila


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Have to set proper white balance and next time use F8 to get both of them in sharp area.
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skida

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I like the informal feel to the photos and I think the ideal colour setting is about halfway between the original yellow complexion and the one by SonicScot as the bride probably would prefer to show some colour. No. 2 is my favourite - OK the groom isn't totally in focus, but it is the bride's day, isn't it?  |
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