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Finally found Contax Planar 50mm f1.7 with 8XXXXXX serial
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bleach551



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Finally found Contax Planar 50mm f1.7 with 8XXXXXX serial Reply with quote

After watching ebay for a long time, I recently Found a Contax Zeiss planar 50mm F1.7 with a 8XXXXXX serial number. The exact serial Number is 8405867 and it was in like NEW condition. Here is a pic taken with it, excuse the boring subject matter. Photo was taken wide open at F1.7.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

congrats bleach, you didn't wait too long
don't forget to show us some video in the 'movie section'
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's special about the 8XXXXXX serial, if I may ask?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poilu,

I promise to post some video as soon as I can find something interesting to post a video of. I don't want to post a boring video of my backyard. Very Happy

AhamB,

Some people, including some people on this board have speculated that they believed that the Planar 50mm F1.7 went through further improvements in optical resolution in the 8XXXXXX serial numbers from the known improvement in 69XXXXX serial number, which was the change from AE version to MM version. This is only speculation and can't be officially proven. Also because all of my other contax Zeiss lenses have 8XXXXXX serial numbers(etc.. planar 85mm f1.4 (8412198) and distagon 28mm f2.8 (8138552). Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poilu,

I have uploaded a video of my canon 7d with the Contax Planar 50mm f1.7.
you can check it out here:
http://www.vimeo.com/12886895
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice test bleach, colors are great, keep filming
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Poilu,

I am still fine tuning the in-camera settings, as well as fine tuning my color correction abilities in Avid Media Composer.I will most likely try some different settings in Sorenson Squeeze also. I am trying to change the settings in Sorenson so that vimeo's encoder will do a better job of properly displaying the footage the way it was when it was exported out of Avid Media Composer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a massive rolling shutter, you should use tripod od steadycam, but nice picture quality
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egidio Thanks,

Yes, "rolling shutter" is one of the biggest consequences, along with Moire and Aliasing, of using a DSLR handheld . I only wanted to show Poilu a sample of what the Contax Planar 50mm f1.7 looked like in the video mode of my 7D. I had a Canon XH-A1 HDV camcorder which I sold for my Canon 7D, and I never had to worry about"rolling shutter", since it had a CCD based sensor. For serious work, it is a "Must" to have some really good stabilization for any CMOS based DSLR, as well as any Video capture device that uses a CMOS sensor, including the "RED" cinema camera. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have exchanged the original video with a new video with a clip taken with my Planar 85mm f1.4, the first clip, along with different material taken the same day at the same location. a new link has been included above in the 5th post.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bleach551 wrote:
AhamB,

the known improvement in 69XXXXX serial number, which was the change from AE version to MM version.


There is a Planar 1.7/50 in the Marketplace now (sold) which has a 679xxxx serial, and it was a MM version (green f/16 aperture and MM function works on Contax body that supports it). It had a ninja-star aperture at f/2 and 2.8 though...

It seems that this AE to MM transition was not so black and white as you put it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhamB,

I don't know what that was. I have had mulitiple Planar 50mm f1.7, 5 to be exact, 3 with serial numbers from 68xxxxx to 687xxx and unless they produced a few MM's and then went back to producing AE's I don't know what to tell you. The 68xxxxx's I had were all AE's with " black" mounts and "white" 16's. One of the other 2 Planars had a "silver and Black" mount, one of the features on a "MM" but had a "white" 16 and a 67xxxxx serial number. I don't want to accuse anyone of anything wrong, because I only know that "my" planar 50mm f1.7's with 68xxxxx serial numbers were all "AE's" and the general consensus is that the "MM's" were started at around the 69xxxxx serial numbers. Maybe someone vastly more knowledgeable than myself can explain that specific Planar 50mm f1.7 you mentioned. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think different s/n were used by German and Japanese factories, so it's incorrect to assume anything without also noting a place of manufacture. I have an MMJ Sonnar 85/2.8 with 66xxxx s/n by the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of my Planars were made in Japan. I would agree that for different lenses, etc..85mm Planar f1.4, 50mm Planar f1.4, the MM conversion may have happened at different serial numbers , but , based on what I beleive you are saying, there will be a Japanese 50mm f1.7 6014565 and a German 50mm f1.7 6014565 . Or, are you saying that , at some point, the German manufacturer of the Planar 50mm f1.7 started lets say for example 6678456 with the "MM" production and stopped at lets say 6899999 for the 6900000 's "MM's" to be produced in Japan. Or, finally, are you saying that the Planar 50mm f1.7 was produced in some kind of alternating sequence between the Germans and Japanese. According to the auction for the lens that has been mentioned with the serial #6798301

http://forum.mflenses.com/sold-carl-zeiss-planar-t-50mm-f-1-7-mmj-contax-yashica-t30043,highlight,planar+50mm.html

it was not German but Japanese, but stated to be an"MMJ". All of my Japanese 50mm f1.7 Planars with serial #'s 68xxxxx to 687xxxx were all "AE"s . Confused

AhamB,

where did you see , or see stated that it had a "green" 16? The only things I see, or that makes me beleive it could be an MMJ, is that says it is a "MMJ" and it has the silver and black mount, which I stated my Planar with the 67xxxxx serial # had and it was an "AE" with a "white" 16.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that German and Japanese factories could have either a) switched from AE to MM at different times, or b) switched at about the same time for a given lens, but due to manufacturing capacities may have used different serial numbers at the time of the switch (I would guess they made more lenses in Japan than in Germany). I think that b) is more likely.
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