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Did Minolta make a compact SLR body?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bob van Sikorski wrote:
all later minolta SLRs are small. not SR-T series (which is bigger), but even my X700 is ok with 45/2.0

Are not you forgetting my dear XE-1 (XE-5, XE-7)?
Just before the XD and XG models a last big and heavy one.
If you want a small body, keep away from that one. If you want a great Minolta camera, that is one to remind.
Scroll down to see Nessters post: http://forum.mflenses.com/free-wallpaper-open-thread-t41787.html


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sorry, my mistake Smile


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
the XG1 is the first camera I bought ( new in 1979 )




not as compact as a OM it's nevertheless relatively small and very light.
Very well proportioned and simple lay out makes it's use very easy and comfortable.


Andreas, I found one, though it doesn't have the f1.4 lens, i'm sure results will be OK:

Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
congratulations Bill! I hope you will like it! I had not mentioned that one cannot expect build quality of older, heavier cameras, but that's 'natural' for these later, lighter cameras Wink

The Rokkor-X f1.4/50 is a fantastic lens, but I am sure so is this Rokkor-X f1.7/50 and they are full metal! here some samples: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&message=40794288&changemode=1


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andreas, thanks! I've seen some of Jussi's photos with the f1.7 which had excellent IQ,
so hope for at least passable results. Smile

Forgot to add, nice samples on DPReview, Andreas! I finally decided to order the NEX C3, due
to the big EXAKTA gap in the NX adapters.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Please don't perpetuate this mistake. Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
skida wrote:
I have both an XG-1 and an X300S. Both are compact, but the X300S is lightest as it is a Polycarbonate body and I use it more than the XG-1.


Thanks, the X300s is dead center what I wanted. Something with the size and heft of a point and shoot, but with the Rokkor
pancake, will give me DOF as well. Bought this Chinese clone:

Click here to see on Ebay


Please for the love of God do not get confused and start to think the Rokkor 45mm f2.0 is a pancake lens. Its not even close . Calling it a Pancake is something that started on eBay about a decade and a half ago. Most likely an Idiot seller on eBay used it in his description and other idiots seen it and started to copy it for their own description on the sale of the same lens. Minolta did make a pancake 45mm lens. It was an F2.8 and it was actually less than half the length of the 45mm f2.0 lens.
The Rokkor 45mm 2.0 is actually quite far from being a Pancake. And is obvious if you ever seen a pancake or compared it to other lenses.
Even the Minolta Rokkor-PF 55mm 1.9 lens is smaller than the 45mm 2.0 lens. If you look at any other camera systems and see what they market as a pancake lens, you will see that the 45mm pancake for Nikon or C/Y or Pentax mount is about half the length of the Rokkor 45mm 2.0. The Minolta Auto Rokkor-TD 45mm 2.8 lens is the only lens Minolta ever marketed as a pancake lens.

Top center is the Minolta Pancake and the top right is the large 45mm f2.0. All are Pancake lenses except the top right Minolta 45mm 2.0 lens.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've also seen the Minolta MD 50/2 often advertised as an pancake. It's a pretty compact lens (and very good) but indeed also not a real pancake (about the same size as the 45/2)

The MD 50/2 one of the best if the not the best Minolta MD lens. Highly recommended!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the bombast, RDM, I stand corrected.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks for the bombast, RDM, I stand corrected.


Sorry if it seamed like i was blasting ya... Just wanted to save you from misinformation, and any future readers of this thread. It is a pet peeve of mine, because I now can never really do a eBay search for the real 45mm Pancake lens. It is a lens I been wanting for quite some time . I use to read postings from people that would find them from time to time and get them for under a hundred dollars, but that was over ten years ago .. so I have always tried to search for it but I noticed more and more were calling the other 45 a pancake thus messing up my search results..lol But it also made me wonder about their intelligence because knowing other lenses that have been called a Pancake, comparatively it was Quite large, More like a Biscuit Very Happy
So it also tells me the sellers are not really camera knowledgeable, despite selling large volumes of camera gear. I only recently found someone selling a pancake but he wants a ridiculous amount of money for it. Also its not an Auto diaphragm lens; its a preset.

And yea if you like compactness you can also try a the 55mm lens I mentioned. And if you plan on using this as a walking around camera and would like another lens or two to have In your pocket, you should consider the Small (for a telephoto) Minolta MD 3.5/135mm. Its a pretty light and compact telephoto. And if you like zooms look at some Sigma UC zoom models. The are slow but sharp; great for using on the camera during a mid day stroll.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, after seeing it mounted on the camera, though somewhat snub-nosed, is no pancake. Embarassed

Thanks for the tips on the lenses.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancakes, well, they are actually few and far between, the Pentax M one is perhaps the most common I see for sale on ebay.

The Minolta 2/45 is small, same size as the Konica 1.8/40, the Pentacon PB 2.4/50 and Yashica ML 2/50 are the same size too, I had em all, all good, but in all cases the full size 50s of the same maker were better.
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