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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: COPAL Shutters for RF |
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djmike wrote:
I borrowed Minolta 7SII from a friend and found the leaf shutter is same as Canon QL17 GIII, from COPAL. 7SII is first introduced in 1977 with lens size 49mm while QL17 GIII in 1972 with 48mm. QL17 GIII has 1/4sec option.
Does anyone have the info of COPAL?
Mike
from QL17 GIII
from 7SII
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DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
Do you know if these lenses can be taken off and adapted for m4/3 use? _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Oops. I attached to a wrong field. Could some one help me to transfer to "Film Rangefinder / Viewfinder Cameras"? Thanks. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Expire: 2012-12-03
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Seiko/Copal are and were the biggest Japanese shutter manufacturer, and the last one remaining globally (if we exclude parts OEMs for compacts). Pretty much every modular shutter ever built into a camera (except for pre seventies non-Japanese cameras) was made by them. Their shutters past the folder age generally were modified to fit the specifics of one particular camera, so they usually are not interchangeable, at any rate unless you (or rather, your camera repair shop) have the ability to re-thread the shutter and fit it with different levers and appendages.
Fixed lens camera lenses beyond the folder age (when there still was a high degree of standardization) cannot be transplanted to another camera short of adapting it to a different barrel and aperture mechanism - but it is not impossible. It has been done and there even are a few shops that provide it as a regular service - see e.g. here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84051.
Such a conversion is far from cheap, requiring many hours of work and usually a sacrificial lens from the target system. The conversion on the Yashica in the link cost $675, not including the lens! _________________ Sevo |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Sero, thanks.
There is few info about COPAL, but from http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Copal. My further question there are some versoin of COPAL, does any one has related information what is the difference? QL17 GIII is introduced 5 years earlier than 7SII but can support down to 1/4 sec. Does this mean 7SII has cost down version of COPAL but might have more "advanced" technique?
Mike _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Expire: 2012-12-03
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
These auto-exposure compact shutters are electronic - the camera electronics (usually not or only partially supplied by Copal) determine the time range supported. _________________ Sevo |
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