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fermy
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fermy wrote:
Yes, the camera was produced in 1961, there is a QC signature from December 1961. The camera with the Helios lens was sold 16.01.1962, so it's very likely that the lens was produced in 1961 too. Industar-50 has QC seal dated 20.01.1962.
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dimitrygo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Any Russian speakers? |
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dimitrygo wrote:
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Below is the provenance for the Helios 44 (silver) in the above post...
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Using a cyrillic alphabet and Google, ah got "passport" and the dates (ah think).
The right-hand one is for the lens - no. N°0071766. Am I correct in assuming that the lens and camera were both registered in January 1962, which would make the lens produced in 1961?
The other "passport" is for a Zenit 3 camera.
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The right side is a passport for Zenit 3 camera. The upper part says that the camera can be supplied with one of the following 3 lenses: Industar-50, Vega-1 and Helios-44. The S/N written against Helios-44 lens means that this specific sold camera was supplied with Helios. The camera was made in December, 1961 and sold on 16.01.62.
The left side is a passport for Industar-50 lens made at the very beginning of 1962, it passed a QA on 20.1.62. |
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TAo2
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Hi Fermy,
Thanks for the swift reply. |
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TAo2
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Hi Dimitrygo, thanks for the extra information . That ties in with the information I have unearthed on the camera - serial no. 61033082  |
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larsjuhljensen
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Complete list of Helios lenses - getting closer |
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larsjuhljensen wrote:
Thank you so much for collecting all this information in a structured way. In my opinion it deserves to be made a sticky!  |
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cantigidotnet
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cantigidotnet wrote:
I just bought this lens
Helios 58mm f2 silver 13 blades
and I dont know about mount this lens
Anyone can help me?
thanks
forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20129/6035_526129_3217405670292_1120866443_32272648_1107513878_n_1.jpg
forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20129/big_6035_575125_3217401310183_1468002239_n_1.jpg |
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WolverineX
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WolverineX wrote:
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I just bought this lens
Helios 58mm f2 silver 13 blades
and I dont know about mount this lens
Anyone can help me?
thanks
forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20129/6035_526129_3217405670292_1120866443_32272648_1107513878_n_1.jpg
forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20129/big_6035_575125_3217401310183_1468002239_n_1.jpg |
it's special lens mount for russian "Start" camera:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?-2135336996
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Usualy, sellers on ebay say that it's not usable lens on other than "start" camera.
Still, a forum member did something with this lens : http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-44-for-start-slr-t22551.html
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themoleman342
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themoleman342 wrote:
...Or you could buy a Start: http://forum.mflenses.com/soviet-start-helios-44-and-40-delta-100-t41386,highlight,%2Bstart.html |
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Sirrith
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Sirrith wrote:
I've just taken delivery of a silver helios 44 in m39, red P, 13 blades, and I'm pleased to report that its my sharpest helios yet
It flares very easily and with quite a nice blue/purple colour though, which makes photos look like they were taken with instagram. |
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
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| which makes photos look like they were taken with instagram. |
 oh dear
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Sirrith
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Sirrith wrote:
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| which makes photos look like they were taken with instagram. |
oh dear |
hehe, well, not that bad  |
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:16 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
| Sirrith wrote: |
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| Sirrith wrote: |
| which makes photos look like they were taken with instagram. |
oh dear |
hehe, well, not that bad |
glad to hear it.
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Currently active gear....
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Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
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Misha_M
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
hmm... does a Helios 77 exist with an A/M switch or manual aperture only?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
No switch on my samples.
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Jacek
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: My Helios 44-2 N0009336 |
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Jacek wrote:
Hi, This is my rare black Helios-44-2 lens, KMZ N0009336, Year ?
"Helios-44-2
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1. KMZ
black + white lettering
v1: sn "N00xxx" - "N0xxx" (likely pre 1970)
v2: sn "00xxx" - "0xxx" (likely 1970-71)
v3: sn "xxx" (e.g. 1971) "
This is another version?
Maybe new - v0: sn "N000xxx" ? 
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: My Helios 44-2 N0009336 |
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BurstMox wrote:
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Hi, This is my rare black Helios-44-2 lens, KMZ N0009336, Year ?  
"Helios-44-2
(...)
1. KMZ
black + white lettering
v1: sn "N00xxx" - "N0xxx" (likely pre 1970)
v2: sn "00xxx" - "0xxx" (likely 1970-71)
v3: sn "xxx" (e.g. 1971) "
This is another version?
Maybe new - v0: sn "N000xxx" ? |
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TAo2
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:07 am Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Hi Bmox.
ah think this falls into v1 category. One of my 44-2s begins N0056xxx, which is much earlier than No-X's last recorded numbers in his list, ah think it's simply pre-1970 but obviously produced early in the run. Mine's looks exactly like yours and identical to my black Helios 44.
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Jacek
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Jacek wrote:
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ah think this falls into v1 category. One of my 44-2s begins N0056xxx, which is much earlier than No-X's last recorded numbers in his list, ah think it's simply pre-1970 but obviously produced early in the run. Mine's looks exactly like yours and identical to my black Helios 44.
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OK, but it should be:
v1: sn "N000xx" - "N0xxx" (likely pre 1970)
Correct? |
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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Hi Bmox.
ah think this falls into v1 category. One of my 44-2s begins N0056xxx, which is much earlier than No-X's last recorded numbers in his list, ah think it's simply pre-1970 but obviously produced early in the run. Mine's looks exactly like yours and identical to my black Helios 44.
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Looking for info in this topik, I've just realised that you that you think it was me who posted it, but I just quoted the above post, because of anti spam limit
Well, now, I have a question. i've acquired a silver Helios 44 5,8cm red P with serial 50xxx and 13 blades... and I don't know in which category it enter... I was guessing the 5,8cm means quite early, but serial does not fit with this theory (It would be serial like 0xxx..). As I understood, only 0xxx had red P, focal in cm and 13 blades. What do u think?
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TAo2
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Hi Burstmox
It's probably MMZ (Minsk) factory.Does it have this logo...
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The "5" at the start of the s/n likely means 1965. The year (in the 1960s) of production.
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Hi TAo .
It's from KMZ factory.
About the 50, I agree with that, but I thought that Helios made in KMZ in 65 had focal in mm, and no red P. All my red P lenses were manufactured before 60. Also, only Helios with sn 000, 00 or 0 are supposed to have 13 blades, not the one with "normal" sn. So whatg is puzzling me is that reguarding to the marks and blades, sn should be with 000, not a normal one. Am I wrong?
A photo of the lens
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ulli65
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: black Helios 40 (not 40-2) ? |
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ulli65 wrote:
Hi,
Did the Helios 40 (the silver one) also came in black? I got one which is like this, with M42 mount but the front ring says just "Helios-40"
The serial is N700396
Thx for any info.
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MartinV
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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MartinV wrote:
Hi, another lurker here, couple of more data points in case they are useful:
I have two type 1.c (silver, "2/58", sn "N°0xxx" or "N°00xxx", 13 blades) lenses, serials are:
0168xxx
0235xxx
The latter one hopefully helps fill this hole in the data:
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| N°0226xxx - N°0244xxx -> silver, no data |
It is, however, quite beat up and has certainly been taken apart earlier, but I hope it's still a valid sample. It also has the script "Made in USSR" on the barrel, opposite the DOF scale, unlike the earlier lens.
I am guessing the earlier one might be from 1962/63, the later one perhaps from 1964, does this sound about right?
I also have an MMZ type 2.c (zebra, "2/58", sn "N°xxx" (e.g. 1970)), serial 8055xxx. I guess that makes it a 1968 then. |
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Rick1779
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Ok I think I've missed something since I can't figure out which model/versione is my Helios, any advice?
- Front Element says: HELIOS-44 2/58 serial 8053...
- White lettering with red mark, MMZ logo like the one TAo2 posted
- M39 mount with m42 flange focal distance (I had to buy the small m39/m42 converter)
some phone horrible pics
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