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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: Cheap Cine Lens for Sony NEX? |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Hello,
I like to buy a cheap (if possible <50€, I'm only a student ) C-mount lens.
Do you have any suggestions? Are there some insider tips like Helios 44, but for C-mount?
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57851 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Why do you want C mount lenses ? Size ? C mount lenses are in fashion due it's small size and quality , you need to pay premium price for well known ones. There is many SLR lenses which are not really big still pocket able and lot cheaper than good C mount lenses. For example a Konica 1.8/40mm pancake lens + Konica adapter pretty small and fit into your budget. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
I think the same as Attila. The only cheap c-mount you may find useful is the plastic 35/1.7 CCTV lens.
You can look at some SLR lenses if the size is not an issue. Look for some primes in Minolta MD, Canon FD, Exakta.
Those are still not expensive and are very good. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
std wrote: |
The only cheap c-mount you may find useful is the plastic 35/1.7 CCTV lens. |
+1
After playing around with several ones, I can only second that statement! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
I agree with Attila's question "why do you want a c-mount lens?"
I think buying c-mount lenses is a minefield:
Is it really a c-mount not cs-mount? (too many people do not know the difference)
Will it vignette badly? (surely a real risk with a wide sensor like NEX)
Will it focus to infinity? (probably less of a risk on NEX compared to m4/3)
Modern Chinese CCTV lenses may be cheap, but are designed for use on low resolution cameras with small sensors and so will likely not be especially sharp and vignette strongly. They also tend to have three bladed diaphragms which will give interesting bokeh.
I am frankly astonished by the high prices older 16mm cine lenses fetch. The most desirable ones are hundreds to even thousands of £. Furthermore, any more humble lens which is proven to work well on NEX or m4/3 will automatically command a high price. The only way you will get a high quality lens cheap is if you take a gamble on a lens which is an unknown quantity, has a bad description, or one that is in poor condition.
I got three Fujinon-TV lenses very cheaply - the 50mm f1.4 I've already posted a review in this forum, but I also have a 35mm f1.7 and a 25mm f1.4. They all came from the same seller and were cheap because they were very dirty and had been modified by adding a motor to control the aperture. Restoration was quite simple, though I had to machine the back of them all to get infinity focus on m4/3, and they are lovely lenses. But, I took a gamble with them and they could have been junk.
If your funds are limited, you are much better playing safe with something that you know will work, such as the SLR lenses already mentioned.
Mark _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Thanks for the advice!
I'll maybe buy a CCTV 1,7 Lens. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
CCTV lenses very often seriously vignette esp. if focal length is below 25mm and even that is not granted. 16mm cine lesnes can still be found cheaply on flee markets, camera fairs and even ebay. Overlooked are the SOM Bertiot for instance, but also not that excellent. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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pat donnelly
Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 666 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: Advice |
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pat donnelly wrote:
I have a large number of c mount lenses and many are not useful except on the GH2 ECT mode! Others are fine and very useful for fast speed, size and performance.
Broadly the others are perfectly correct, as you might expect and collecting them is expensive!
The vendors, who know their business on eBay, will demonstrate their lenses performance on the camera, so carry out a search for the usual categories and judge what you want?
Definitely you will get better bang for your $ if you go for 35mm primes! You cannot afford the low weight premium and their performance is usually very good. Unless you choose an old zoom, they won't damage the camera mount.
If you are very practical, then look for those lenses that have been "doctored"
by other members to be used on digital compact system cameras? You could try buying very cheap lenses, not on eBay, and adapting them? I managed to get 5 fingernail size 110 lenses, for Rollei camera, when looking for repair lenses. They might be very interesting, no aperture, when inserted into the body cap of the camera? One of those jobs I have put onto the long finger!
Research these forums!
Good Luck and let us know how you got on? _________________ ---------------------------------
EP-1, E-410, E-300, D100, D1,
C-Mt: 25mm 1.9, 75mm 1.4, 75mm 1.3, 75mm 1.9, Ultra wides, one inch sensor, 20+ c-mount zooms
OM 350mm f2.8, Nikkor 180 f2.8, Exa 180 f2.8,
Tamrons: 90mm f2.5, 500mm f8 x3, 135 f2.5, 200 f3.5, 24mm 2.5, 28mm 2.5 x8,
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