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etorix
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 Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:58 am Post subject: Carl Zeiss Contax G Lens[es] |
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etorix wrote:
i'm definitely eyeing up a Carl Zeiss Contax G Biogon 2.8/28mm, reasonable,
its also in a shop, where i can go examine it pre-purchase, unusually in this day and age
the 45mm f2 Planar and 90mm 2.8 Sonnar dont sound bad neither, they seem fairly plentiful in good nick
small + sharp, perfect if they fly on my M43s but wait
whats the focussing mechanism .. is it on the adapter or what, im not clear, these are AF RF lenses
there also the question of wing-cuttiing-off
sure, theres some posts on here regarding Contax G lenses, not recent ones tho |
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calvin83 wrote:
Look for them in the adapter section...
http://forum.mflenses.com/metabones-contax-gm4-3-adapter-a-big-lie-t50549.html
P.S. There are some reports that the G28 will works well on some M4/3 camera without shaving of the plastic. Some new camera like EM-5/GX1 will need to be shaved.
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biggles3
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:27 am Post subject: Re: Carl Zeiss Contax G Lens[es] |
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biggles3 wrote:
Hi - it's a lovely, sharp lens BUT you will have to cut off the metal baffles that protect the rear element to be able to mount it on a m4/3 body and even then, it's a risky fit. The 45mm and 90 mm (both excellent lenses) don't share this problem and should fit comfortably with the right adapter.
Be very careful when selecting your adapter. The focusing mechanism comes in 2 forms - on cheap adapters, there is a small, knurled wheel that is rotated to change focus - avoid this type at all costs as it is very difficult to handle. The more reliable and costly type utilises a conventional focusing ring at the rear of the adapter and is much easier to use. Because of the complexity of the G-mount's securing mechanism, take care when mounting and dismounting the lens as it can easily jam.
I have used the 28 (with baffles sawn off), 35mm, 45mm and 90mm lenses successfully on 4/3 and m4/3 bodies and the quality of the glass makes it very worthwhile.
Good luck if you go for it but I'd recommend one of the other lenses as a first option simply to avoid the surgery on the mount.
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i'm definitely eyeing up a Carl Zeiss Contax G Biogon 2.8/28mm, reasonable,
its also in a shop, where i can go examine it pre-purchase, unusually in this day and age
the 45mm f2 Planar and 90mm 2.8 Sonnar dont sound bad neither, they seem fairly plentiful in good nick
small + sharp, perfect if they fly on my M43s but wait
whats the focussing mechanism .. is it on the adapter or what, im not clear, these are AF RF lenses
there also the question of wing-cuttiing-off
sure, theres some posts on here regarding Contax G lenses, not recent ones tho |
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etorix
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:17 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
hmm .. good comments and info, cheers
and yeah, i wasnt sure which lenses had the 'alteration' issue
im actually more interested in the 45mm f2 than the 28mm as a first Contax G buy
just i can see an affordable 28mm in a shop .. same dealer also has the 90mm 2.8 Sonnar
which to be frank, i'd kinda like NOT to be my first Contax G lens
since i recently acquired 2 nice Nikkors ... 85mm AND 105mm
guess it wont hurt to go and have a feel tho
the 90mm has a pretty good reputation, with a major size/weight advantage over both them Nikkors
no panic, these lenses seem worth taking some time over |
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fermy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
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Be very careful when selecting your adapter. The focusing mechanism comes in 2 forms - on cheap adapters, there is a small, knurled wheel that is rotated to change focus - avoid this type at all costs as it is very difficult to handle. The more reliable and costly type utilises a conventional focusing ring at the rear of the adapter and is much easier to use. Because of the complexity of the G-mount's securing mechanism, take care when mounting and dismounting the lens as it can easily jam.
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Well, I think you are exaggerating. I have this adapter with a small wheel. It's not ideal, and proper helicoid is certainly a lot better. However, a helicoid is better than the "conventional" focusing ring of expensive adapters too. In my opinion the small wheel adapter is perfectly usable, putting it on is actually quite easy once you understand the principle that the "screwdriver" on the wheel needs to get into the slot on the lens.
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std
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
You don't need to trim the protector of the 28 biogon for m4/3.
The 21mm does not fit on m4/3 - only on nex.
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vanylapep
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
I was thinking of getting the Metabones for my Contax G 90 2.8, anyone recommends the Metabones or is there a better adapter?
Price is non issue. I don't want to use the AF, I don't mind the MF. |
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biggles3
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biggles3 wrote:
Is it to fit a NEX body? Regardless of the camera, Metabones are good adapters - I used a Kindai with no problems but would happily go for a Metabones.
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I was thinking of getting the Metabones for my Contax G 90 2.8, anyone recommends the Metabones or is there a better adapter?
Price is non issue. I don't want to use the AF, I don't mind the MF. |
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barryreid wrote:
If it is for a NEX I can recommend the 3rd Generation TechArt adapter. I use it for my Contax G90 on my A7r and it works pretty well, including the AF.
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etorix
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
hmm. the Metabones adapters ive got look nice but arent actually impressive to use, too much play in one case, a bit disappointing, they do look good and well-fabricated
the only Kindai one i use seems ok, works well
i cant speak to any Contax G adapters yet tho, i needs catch a lens first |
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vanylapep
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vanylapep wrote:
Yes it's for my nex. I have a 30$ adapter that has a mini wheel to fucus, but it hurts my finger. This one looks good (Fotodiox): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6B3TQw6yY
but its' 70$Cad.. vs 139$+taxCad Metabones. Dunno which one to get.. |
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etorix
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
i think ima try buy the 90mm 2.8 from this shop .. it wants lookin at first, but its accessibly reasonably local
with mostlikely a Fotodiox adapter
on Panasonic Lumix DMC-G*s
Monday is my first real chance, hope its still there |
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etorix
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etorix wrote:
missed that 90mm, my cashpile was late building, it and the 28mm were both gone
consoled myself tho
by buying > m43 largewheel adapters
one from amazon, one from fleabay
one of which arrived already, not sure rightnow which maker .. asmartteam?
looks quite well-made tbh |
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duckrider wrote:
There ........
is...........
a nice,.........
an overwhelming,............
tears bringing' into Your eyes,.........
shortly said.......
a Millionairs account matchicng solution:
make that G spot aehm G-mount.....
convert it into M!
http://www.japanexposures.com/lens/
Jee, those little gems, they are sooooooooooo cute, I adore them!
but can't afford them....
shhhhhhhhh...t
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koji wrote:
You do not need a million dollar.
Why don't you do it by yourself? See the below...
http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/top_level_lens_modifications
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duckrider
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duckrider wrote:
Thanks for the link, but Japanexposures lenses are sooooo precise made, looking like art subjects, can't describ my fascination. Did You see the sushade of the 28 mm Biogon?
It's lens porn, but most sexiest one.... 
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
ok, found another affordable and local 90mm 2.8 .. with m43 adapter thrown in, even, and the originall hood+caps
awaiting delivery .. |
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std
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
The 90mm is a very fine lens 
Have fun with it.
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
| std wrote: |
The 90mm is a very fine lens
Have fun with it. |
thanks .. i hope its a good copy, it looks fine, and i shouldnt have long to wait
more importantly i hope i get on with using the adapter to focus it ...
if its ok i totally want the 45mm f2, next, definitely
tho i'm not sure which of the other shorter ones would be most useful after that |
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std
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
35 mm is the most balanced for me on m4/3.
45mm is too long and 28 too short
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
yeah, i've only just recently noticed the 35mm f2, myself
and my only 35mm lens is a pre-war Elmar 35mm 3.5 [1933]
which has nice coverage on m43
still tho, the 45mm has fairly legendary 'sharp', i really would want to try it out for myself imho
doesnt the 28 have mounting issues .. also, isnt there a 16mm or so?
35 + 90 is a good pairing, hmm |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:44 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
| etorix wrote: |
| .. also, isnt there a 16mm or so? |
Yeah! There is the 1200$ upwarts Hologon 16 mm 
But I don't think it will fit onto Your adapter / cam, and if so this non retrofocus lens design will give no good results on digital. On film it's one of the best ultrawides ever!
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Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
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duckrider
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:45 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
sorry, doublepost
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std
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:28 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
| etorix wrote: |
yeah, i've only just recently noticed the 35mm f2, myself
and my only 35mm lens is a pre-war Elmar 35mm 3.5 [1933]
which has nice coverage on m43
still tho, the 45mm has fairly legendary 'sharp', i really would want to try it out for myself imho
doesnt the 28 have mounting issues .. also, isnt there a 16mm or so?
35 + 90 is a good pairing, hmm |
Well the 2/45mm it is a bit sharper than 2/35mm but not by much. At least on photos you take you will not see a huge difference.
As sharpness it is very close to the Olympus m.zuiko 1.8/45mm which also have lightning fast AF.
Well bokeh is not the same on Olympus but unless you find the Contax G 2/45 very cheap (like i did fortunately) i guess it is not worth getting it.
For the 28mm - it depends from your adapter. I had cheap Chinese adapter which was not able to mount it and metabones for m4/3 which can (but cannot lock it)
on Nex the 2.8/28mm (and 2.8/21mm) mounts just fine with all adapters.
16mm i guess you can't use on digital -but you never know - i never tried that lens
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etorix
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
90mm 2.8 arrived this morning
looks in good condition, bit dusty mb, front element needs a proper clean, but i dont see much dust inside, nor scratches on the outside glass
rear mount has a fair bit of fresh verdigris on the chromed parts, needs a bit more cleaning still too .. seaside trips, i wonder, or just unuse
lens body is cosmetically very good [ very '60's Porsche' ] nicely proportioned for the Lumix G series
im in no rush to take it outside
apart from the 0°C weather, i dont quite trust any of my adapters yet |
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